Yet we quote and link you to >OFFICIAL< web links on Hulu where we can see that it's a series, so why wouldn't "Episodes of an anthology series that are treated like TV movies (e.g. individual DVD release, theatrical release)" apply (I ask again)? Not sure if this is lost in translation to me.

https://press.hulu.com/shows/into-the-dark/ episode list with numbers
https://www.hulu.com/into-the-dark "Watch horror series Into The Dark online | hulu.com" / "Into the Dark is a horror series of 12 super-sized episodes"
https://www.facebook.com/IntoTheDarkSeries/ "American horror anthology web television series produced for Hulu"
https://twitter.com/IntoHulu/status/1169132890317316096 "season finale"

@sp1ti said:

Yet we quote and link you to >OFFICIAL< web links on Hulu where we can see that it's a series, so why wouldn't "Episodes of an anthology series that are treated like TV movies (e.g. individual DVD release, theatrical release)" apply (I ask again)? Not sure if this is lost in translation to me.

Read again the Rebecca answer at the top of page 2. I quote : "If they were episodes of a tv series, they'd all be under the same page with 'series' in the URL.". If it was a series, you will have found a page like this one for another Hulu series : https://www.hulu.com/series/fck-thats-delicious-ff85457c-5475-48af-85d5-edc57f72812b

For the application of this rule, the first release should have happen as a series.

"If they were episodes of a tv series, they'd all be under the same page with 'series' in the URL.".

This is your only argument where all the others (official) sources specifically indicate that this is a serie.

Seems like you're stuck with your first decision and can't even consider you could be wrong

@superboy97 said: This is not the indication that this is part of a series.

What is it then ? What is the "Into the dark: 12 wicked tales". And "Into the dark: The Body" as the movie title on the official page which is conveniently renamed "The Body" on TMDB. Explain to me what does "Into the dark " stand for if not for indicating this is part of a grouping from the start. Because it seems to me you're just blinfoldingly rejecting what we're saying.

@spirann said:

"If they were episodes of a tv series, they'd all be under the same page with 'series' in the URL.".

This is your only argument where all the others (official) sources specifically indicate that this is a serie.

This is not our argument, but our rule.

@superboy97 said: This is not the indication that this is part of a series.

What is it then ? What is the "Into the dark: 12 wicked tales". And "Into the dark: The Body" as the movie title on the official page which is conveniently renamed "The Body" on TMDB. Explain to me what does "Into the dark " stand for if not for indicating this is part of a grouping from the start. Because it seems to me you're just blinfoldingly rejecting what we're saying.

I never say that this wasn't a grouping. I just say that this is not a grouping of episodes, but simply a grouping of movies.

@superboy97 said:

This is not our argument, but our rule.

And where can I found this "rule" you talk about. And why can't it be both ? A movie by url and a serie from the official informations.

@superboy97 said: I never say that this wasn't a grouping. I just say that this is not a grouping of episodes, but simply a grouping of movies.

A grouping of movie that Hulu explicitly and officially call serie and episodes.

As previously stated this is clearly a case for the rule Content allowed in TV and movie section Why can't you accept that they can be considered as both as they are for Hulu. A serie of movies released as episodes.

@spirann said:

@superboy97 said:

This is not our argument, but our rule.

And where can I found this "rule" you talk about. And why can't it be both ? A movie by url and a serie from the official informations.

In the Contribution Bible:

Content allowed in the Movie section:

• Movies released via a professional digital platform

Content NOT allowed in the TV section:

• TV and digital movies originally released in one part.

@superboy97 said: I never say that this wasn't a grouping. I just say that this is not a grouping of episodes, but simply a grouping of movies.

A grouping of movie that Hulu explicitly and officially call serie and episodes.

Even if they have called it like that, they did not release it like that.

As previously stated this is clearly a case for the rule Content allowed in TV and movie section Why can't you accept that they can be considered as both as they are for Hulu. A serie of movies released as episodes.

As indicated previously, this rule doesn't apply here.

• TV movies originally released as part of an umbrella series
• Episodes of an anthology series that are treated like TV movies (e.g. individual DVD release, theatrical release).
• TV episodes edited into a proper theatrical movie (e.g. Pippi Longstocking)

All these cases need a first release as episodes of a series, which is not the case here as they were directly released as movies.

@superboy97 said:

In the Contribution Bible:

Content allowed in the Movie section:

• Movies released via a professional digital platform

Content NOT allowed in the TV section:

• TV and digital movies originally released in one part.

Then as they call it offcially a tv serie :

Content allowed in the TV section:

• Television shows
• Web series

Content NOT allowed in the Movie section:

• Films originally released as a web series or as a season of a web series.

Even if they have called it like that, they did not release it like that.

You says they didn't released like that and made the rule that because they have an url with /movie for each episode they can only be movie. But from the first episode they've said this is a series of 12 episode, 1 by month.

All these cases need a first release as episodes of a series, which is not the case here as they were directly released as movies.

Each one of the first season was explicitly released as Into the Dark : {episode name} , listed under the hulu.com/into-the-dark url which specifically says "this is a serie with episodes"

Even before the release of the first episode (The Body (10/05/2018)), They announced this will be a serie :

Hulu and Blumhouse Television Unveil Year-Round Horror Event Series: Into the Dark

https://press.hulu.com/news/2018/05/02/hulu-surges-past-20-million-u-s-subscribers-and-announces-plans-to-offer-advertising-in-live-tv-this-quarter/

This Friday, Hulu and Blumhouse Television will premiere the first installment of the new Hulu Original Series, Into The Dark – the first-ever year-round event series that will bring fans 12 standalone feature-length episodes on the first Friday of every month throughout the year.

https://press.hulu.com/news/2018/10/01/hulu-unveils-31-nights-of-chills-and-thrills-with-launch-of-immersive-halloween-experience/

They may be released with an /movie url but for the rest they were always considered as episodes.

Event the rating of each episode is TVMA and not R

@spirann said:

Then as they call it offcially a tv serie :

Even if they called it a series, they didn't release it as a series.

But from the first episode they've said this is a series of 12 episode, 1 by month.

One movie per mobth, not one episode.

Each one of the first season was explicitly released as Into the Dark : {episode name}

The fact that the movie titles are prefixed by "Into the Dark" doesn't make this a series.

listed under the hulu.com/into-the-dark url which specifically says "this is a serie with episodes"

The https://www.hulu.com/into-the-dark page doesn't even link to the so called episodes... LOL... but to movies...

Even before the release of the first episode (The Body (10/05/2018)), They announced this will be a serie :

Hulu and Blumhouse Television Unveil Year-Round Horror Event Series: Into the Dark

https://press.hulu.com/news/2018/05/02/hulu-surges-past-20-million-u-s-subscribers-and-announces-plans-to-offer-advertising-in-live-tv-this-quarter/

This Friday, Hulu and Blumhouse Television will premiere the first installment of the new Hulu Original Series, Into The Dark – the first-ever year-round event series that will bring fans 12 standalone feature-length episodes on the first Friday of every month throughout the year.

https://press.hulu.com/news/2018/10/01/hulu-unveils-31-nights-of-chills-and-thrills-with-launch-of-immersive-halloween-experience/

What they planned to do and what they do are 2 different things.

They may be released with an /movie url

This is the important thing.

Event the rating of each episode is TVMA and not R

The TVMA rating apply to all TV content wether it is a TV series or a TV movie, R apply to theatrical movies.

Looks like we're turning in circle here.

From Blumhouse Television, Into the Dark is a horror series of 12 super-sized episodes

We've clearly established here that from the start "Into the Dark" was announced and promoted as a Serie.

And you keep pointing out that they were released as movie.

The fact that the episodes where also released as movie doesn't remove the fact that they are episodes of a Serie.

It's a Serie for which each month they release an Episode in the form of a Movie, (that they call Installment for that reason, each of them is a part of a whole, not individual movies).

I know on TMDB you try to put in movie or tv and you want it to be only one of them but we are clearly in a situation where it's both. (And that's the reason we're having this discussion, if it was clearly one of them, it'll be already resolved)

"The Body (2018)" was never released as just a movie, they released it as "Into the Dark : The Body" (movie), one of the 12 Installments of the Serie "Into the Dark" ("a horror series of 12 super-sized episodes").

And they created a specific page where you could find all the episodes/movies (labelled as "Installments").

Yes they're movies, but you can't deny they were released as a serie also.

Yes Simon, I was thinking the same thing. This is a site managed by persons who have the role of admins as it should be. But at the same time all of us, as normal users, also give our contribution so that the site is as complete as possible.

This is a particular case that some of us can view it as a list of separated movies, others can view it as a TV serie, just because that's how it is, it is BOTH.

Us as normal users can accept the admins choice, but admins can't deny our point of view.

For me I suggest that it would be more right to give users the possibility of choice, make an exception to the rule and allow the coexistence of the film series but also the TV series at the same time. I don't think it is a drama, also because luckly it is a rare case, and I don't think there are so many cases of this type on the site database.

@spirann said:

Looks like we're turning in circle here.

From Blumhouse Television, Into the Dark is a horror series of 12 super-sized episodes

We've clearly established here that from the start "Into the Dark" was announced and promoted as a Serie.

And you keep pointing out that they were released as movie.

They have effectively been announced as a series of 12 super-sized episodes before the effective release.

But, at release time, they were only released as movies. This is the only thing that should be taken in account here.

As this is visible here, the installments are movies.

@superboy97 said:

They have effectively been announced as a series of 12 super-sized episodes before the effective release.

But, at release time, they were only released as movies. This is the only thing that should be taken in account here.

No they were not, they were announced as episodes (and installments) on the "Into the dark" page since the release of the first one ("The Body").

As this is visible here, the installments are movies.

As this is visible here, the movies are installments, they can't be considered as stand-alone movies.

@spirann said:

As this is visible here, the movies are installments, they can't be considered as stand-alone movies.

They should be considered as stand-alone movies.

In the future with the Universe feature, you may be able to group them, but not now.

@superboy97 said: As this is visible here, the installments are movies.

It says right on their Hulu page they are super sized episodes. I get it, looking at comments us users can't win, but there surely has to be a compromise when so many of us (and many other database sites, too) are disagreeing with you.

@superboy97 said:

@spirann said:

As this is visible here, the movies are installments, they can't be considered as stand-alone movies.

They should be considered as stand-alone movies.

No they don't.

By definition:

An installment is also one of the parts of something, such as a show, that is experienced as part of a series over a period of time:

• a TV miniseries with five installments

(Definition of installment from the Cambridge Academic Content Dictionary © Cambridge University Press)

They've been called installments since the release of the first episode. They are part of a serie, not individual movies.

They should be admitted in the TV section.