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Item: Into the Dark: The Body

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Type of Problem: Incorrect_content

Extra Details: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8427140/ this is a TVshow

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It honestly makes no sense counting them as individual "movies". Everywhere you look says it is a series. TMDb would be the only service referring to it as such, HULU probably uses the /movie url just because of how they release it, each is standalone, but not in a way where it isn't a series. All this does is hurt metadata matching for different app/services making them only a movie on here. It could make sense if you allowed both, but then each should link back to the original as an "external" database identifier. This show keeps getting a new series page created, deleted, someone makes a new one, then the old one gets re-enabled. How is that good for anyone, just leave it as a series under one ID.

HULU even says series on their official trailers on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0P0Ycsv73w "How well do you know the one you love? The Into The Dark series continues with Tentacles coming to Hulu February 12th""

Just to reopen the debate : as member of the press, we've received the documentation for "Into the dark" as a tv-show before programming it on VOD and here is the press link : https://press.hulu.com/shows/into-the-dark/ So it's clearly a tv-show ;)

You've done a real mess with this choice: every sites you go over the net says that this IS an anthology serie. I'm agree with the other users, please review your point of view and reconvert it in series.

I quote Rebecca answer from February 2021 above:

@rfl0216 said:

Hulu considers them all to be movies:

If they were episodes of a tv series, they'd all be under the same page with 'series' in the URL. (The hub does not count, its more of a collection page than a tv page on Hulu).

Nothing has changed on the Hulu website since this answer, so nothing should be changed here.

@superboy97 said:

I quote Rebecca answer from February 2021 above:

@rfl0216 said:

Hulu considers them all to be movies:

If they were episodes of a tv series, they'd all be under the same page with 'series' in the URL. (The hub does not count, its more of a collection page than a tv page on Hulu).

Nothing has changed on the Hulu website since this answer, so nothing should be changed here.

https://press.hulu.com/shows/into-the-dark/

Or https://www.hulu.com/into-the-dark

From Blumhouse Television, Into the Dark is a horror series of 12 super-sized episodes, with a new installment released each month.

@spirann said:

https://press.hulu.com/shows/into-the-dark/

That doesn't change the fact that the individual titles has been released as movies.

@superboy97 said:

@spirann said:

https://press.hulu.com/shows/into-the-dark/

That doesn't change the fact that the individual titles has been released as movies.

Yes it does, they promote and they sell it as a show with episodes classified into seasons, that's the definition of a tv-show serie

@spirann said:

@superboy97 said:

@spirann said:

https://press.hulu.com/shows/into-the-dark/

That doesn't change the fact that the individual titles has been released as movies.

Yes it does, they promote and they sell it as a show with episodes classified into seasons, that's the definition of a tv-show serie

I checked this, and on Hulu site those that you go on to call "movie", are classified as episodes, like S01E104, S02E205 etc. I don't understand what other evidence do you want to have to reconvert in tv show.

The explanation has been given by Rebecca...

Sorry if I tell you: it remains an incomprehensible and meaningless choice .... the last 2 episodes of the 4th season of Stranger Things are not movies even if the runtime is more than 1 hour. These ones too are released as a movies but they remain episodes as it should be. If the producers decide to release one or more episodes with a runtime of 3 hours (of whatever tv series), what do you do?? Do you convert 'em in movies?????

@sp1ti said: maybe allow both, like https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/3470-masters-of-horror & all the standalones? https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/299438-jenifer/discuss/5af9a07992514139b9009574 thinking

Even if each episode is detailed with an url with /movie/, the show itself is described officially as a tv-show by Hulu.

Or maybe find something "between" collection and tv-show. It could resolve problem with other shows where specials episodes are released as movies, or "shows" like Oats Studio (https://www.netflix.com/title/81483047) . Because everybody search in tvshows but they only exists in movies as individual episodes. which lead to continuous creation of new tvshows which are deleted as they go.

As indicated, there will be no changes...

@superboy97 said:

The explanation has been given by Rebecca...

It would be nice if you could stop brandishing this as an argument-to-end-all-arguments and actually address the points made by other users, including myself.

To address your point: Rebecca is going by how the episodes are presented on HULU's website. That's it. Maybe she made the decision that this was enough to classify them as movies without looking at the other information that other users have since brought up. And if that marketing decision made by the HULU website team is considered official, why should it be more official than them also calling it an anthology series on the same website, or giving them episode numbers ? Isn't that a bit selective ? Why is literally every other service on the web classifying this as a TV Show ? I fear this has turned into a case of trying to justify by any means a decision that may be hard to reverse, rather than an honest disagreement. If that's the case, just say so. People might be more understanding of that than what seems like an arbitrary decision to do things differently than everybody else.

@takeshi2010 said:

Rebecca is going by how the episodes are presented on HULU's website. That's it.

That's the absolute rule here. We are going the way it is originally broadcasted and these items are broadcasted on movie pages, so they should be listed as movies.

If you talk about absolute rule, this is from TMDB Bible (https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/new_content) :

Content allowed in TV and movie section

Some content is allowed to exist in both the TV and the movie database. These are:

  • TV movies originally released as part of an umbrella series
  • Episodes of an anthology series that are treated like TV movies (e.g. individual DVD release, theatrical release).
  • TV episodes edited into a proper theatrical movie (e.g. Pippi Longstocking)

I think "into the dark", is clearly one of those... The first episode has always been under the "Into the dark" Umbrella : https://web.archive.org/web/20181006000623/https://www.hulu.com/movie/the-body-41bb4246-8b0d-42de-be12-8db90a0cd500

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