Sly shows again how he his massively under rated as an actor and not just an action star - I really think he held his own against Keitel, DeNiro and Liotta in every scene he had, but that scene with Sciorra where she (Liz) asks Sly (Freddy) how come he never got married and he replies "All the best girls are taken..." This was up there with any Oscar winning performance.
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Contestado por RCH2288
el 14 de marzo de 2017 a las 18:44
This movie is so underrated its almost criminal. Stallone says this movie derailed his career. I think its one of his best. Not sure why so many people didn't like this movie
Contestado por bluersun
el 14 de marzo de 2017 a las 19:21
Maybe some are upset because they thought Stallone was punching above his weight or holding his own against "serious" actors..?
Anyway, a great film.
Contestado por catmydogs
el 14 de marzo de 2017 a las 19:59
I liked him in rocky, creed, rocky balboa. How does his performance here compare? I want to see Copland someday...
Contestado por bluersun
el 14 de marzo de 2017 a las 20:48
It's up there with Rocky easily... I'd say better than Creed or Balboa imo.
Contestado por catmydogs
el 23 de marzo de 2017 a las 12:58
Okay, I watched Copland over the weekend. Stallone offered a great, subtle performance. I think he is underrated as an actor, partially due to his own fault, as he chose to go the "action hero" route. But in his dramatic roles, one can see that he is capable of doing a fine job.
Contestado por bluersun
el 23 de marzo de 2017 a las 14:21
Yes I'd agree if he had stuck to more dramatic and or serious roles he might be regarded in the same league as DeNiro, Pacino, Hoffman... It's just some of his better known roles - Rambo (although First Blood was awesome) Cobra, Judge Dredd... They really didn't do him any favours in these terms.
Anyway, glad you liked it!!
Contestado por alias
el 23 de marzo de 2017 a las 19:19
I thought he was excellent too!! In fact the whole film was under-rated. It was gritty and realistic.
Contestado por Midi-chlorian_Count
el 24 de marzo de 2017 a las 08:13
This was a good film but I'd say Sly's best performances are his First Blood and Rocky Balboa monologues.
Plus I wouldn't feel too sorry for him not being considered a "serious actor". I'm pretty sure he's more than happy with the career he's had - I mean he is Rocky and Rambo after all!
Contestado por bluersun
el 24 de marzo de 2017 a las 08:30
And just look at the toss DeNiro is piling out lately - I had to turn Bad Grandpa off... The Family was awful... No, I was just saying that when Stallone is required to 'act' he can really pull it out the bag... Like you said, the monologue in First Blood was perfect... I doubt many could have gotten into that head-space and emptied themselves with little thought for their ego like he did.
Contestado por DRDMovieMusings
el 24 de septiembre de 2017 a las 21:47
I'm 30 minutes into my first viewing of this movie and Stallone is spellbinding in his portrayal.
His demeanor, mannerisms - there's not a hint of the biggest action star of the 80s not named Arnold.
I'll circle back for a fuller review when done watching it - if the first half hour is any indication, it looks solid.
Contestado por DRDMovieMusings
el 24 de septiembre de 2017 a las 23:11
Yep, this movie is definitely among Stallone's finest.
My favourite Stallone movie is most likely Rambo (2008), and The Specialist is one of my guilty pleasures.
Cop Land, however, showcases Stallone's range while sharing the screen with a stellar cast including De Niro, Keitel and Liotta (and, it's nice to see Liotta not playing a nutcase, for a change).
Bravo.
Contestado por Rickers
el 25 de septiembre de 2017 a las 02:25
The Specialist was good, mostly because of Eric Roberts and James Woods (in that order).
Don't EVER bash Cobra!!!! One of the finest pieces of film-making ever! I think it's time for a "Things I learned from Cobra" thread over there. Enough time has passed.
Cop Land is a good movie, but I didn't think Stallone's performance was anything special. He did fine with it.
Now, the Expendables movies are a different matter. Can we all agree that these are all terrible and should never be spoken of again?
Contestado por DRDMovieMusings
el 25 de septiembre de 2017 a las 10:50
Not to take anything away from Eric Roberts, but Id' reverse your order - I much preferred James Woods' performance. But, having mentioned them, I'll share a few tidbits:
I have not (yet) seen Cobra. Will add it to my watch list, a viewing is way overdue. BTW, you do know the background of that movie and why it got a poster in Beverly Hills Cop 2, right?
It's ok for us to disagree, differing opinions makes conversations more interesting.
We can all agree that Stallone has a knack for creating memorable - if not iconic - heroes. Rocky and Rambo are Hollywood royalty. As for Barney, let's just say while not a giant on the level of the aforementioned two, he did become the foundation for a franchise which is saying something; and bringing together so many big names is no easy accomplishment, as making a movie with the kind of budget required to do so is extremely risky; but a big budget is something Stallone has been known for (see previous comment about Cobra/Beverly Hills Cop).
Contestado por bluersun
el 25 de septiembre de 2017 a las 11:23
Stallone was to star in Beverly Hills Cop but wanted it to be a gritty thriller, after that didn't happen we got Cobra (a guilty pleasure of mine).
As for The Expendables I like the first two for what they are; fun 80s throwback action romps.
Glad you like Cop Land though :)
Contestado por DRDMovieMusings
el 25 de septiembre de 2017 a las 14:16
Keep an eye on the Cobra discussions page - as soon as I've watched it, I'll check in there!