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Nina was incredibly obnoxious during the meeting with Willow today she was so unbearable she sounded like Lulu or Laura!

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@kathykato said:

It could also be that she is overreacting out of a sense of guilt. She knows that since she divorced Valentin, she is no longer a daily part of Charlotte's life. Charlotte has suffered so much loss in the past few years, Nina moving out is yet another loss.

Yeah, I agree that Nina's overreaction is out of guilt. Perhaps she thinks that fiercely defending Charlotte proves that she still loves her, but it is actually the opposite. If her teacher is telling you that something is wrong, you should at least listen and hear her out.

And Ms. Tait spends far more time with Charlotte than Nina does. Even more of a reason to listen.

It is obvious that Nina has less of a relationship with her now bc of the divorce. I think she feels some guilt. Especially by referring to Charlotte as "my daughter" during her rant.

@revelle said:

It is obvious that Nina has less of a relationship with her now bc of the divorce. I think she feels some guilt. Especially by referring to Charlotte as "my daughter" during her rant.

Actually, Charlotte is nothing to Nina now. When Nina kicked Valentin to the curb for not living up to her standards of perfection, Charlotte ceased being her step-daughter. I hate Lulu but I did love the look she gave Nina when Nina said "my daughter." Nina is delusional.

Pete Davidson is diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and he does acknowledge it.

@KLH0128 said:

@revelle said:

It is obvious that Nina has less of a relationship with her now bc of the divorce. I think she feels some guilt. Especially by referring to Charlotte as "my daughter" during her rant.

Actually, Charlotte is nothing to Nina now. When Nina kicked Valentin to the curb for not living up to her standards of perfection, Charlotte ceased being her step-daughter. I hate Lulu but I did love the look she gave Nina when Nina said "my daughter." Nina is delusional.

But Charlotte still feels/ has a connection with Nina. In a recent scene, she said to Nina that she misses her and wishes she still lived with her and Papa. And Nina agreed.

I'm sure Charlotte feels abandoned by Nina bc of the divorce. They might pursue that as a reason for the bullying. That she is acting out bc of it.

@revelle said:

@KLH0128 said:

@revelle said:

It is obvious that Nina has less of a relationship with her now bc of the divorce. I think she feels some guilt. Especially by referring to Charlotte as "my daughter" during her rant.

Actually, Charlotte is nothing to Nina now. When Nina kicked Valentin to the curb for not living up to her standards of perfection, Charlotte ceased being her step-daughter. I hate Lulu but I did love the look she gave Nina when Nina said "my daughter." Nina is delusional.

But Charlotte still feels/ has a connection with Nina. In a recent scene, she said to Nina that she misses her and wishes she still lived with her and Papa. And Nina agreed.

I'm sure Charlotte feels abandoned by Nina bc of the divorce. They might pursue that as a reason for the bullying. That she is acting out bc of it.

But Nina can't have it both ways. She can't kick Valentin to the curb and still have a claim to his kid. Nina had no business even being at that meeting with the teacher. Much less, running her big, loud mouth nonstop.

@KLH0128 said:

But Nina can't have it both ways. She can't kick Valentin to the curb and still have a claim to his kid.

Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think that Nina is really just playing a game with Valentin. It's not that she doesn't want him, it's that she wants him to constantly be groveling at her feet trying to 'make up' for purely imaginary offenses that exist only in her imagination because she likes being the one in control of the relationship, she wants to have leverage over him.

I've had relationships like that, and they are exhausting, so exhausting that I haven't even really done any dating for at least the last 10 years because the thought of entering into another relationship like that fills me with dread. I'm not opposed to the idea of a relationship, but I'm not going to do it again unless I have something I regard as an assurance that the woman in question is not insane. I don't understand what Valentin sees in Nina anyway, he needs to just give up on her already.

I think we put way more thought and analysis into these characters than the writers do. In all probability, the writers had Nina mouth off at the parent teacher meeting because they thought it would be an entertaining scene.

I think Nina has unrealistically high standards for people because of how her mother betrayed her, and how she lost 20 years of her life because of it. She doesn't want to be in a position of powerlessness again or feel betrayed. Valentin has been very kind and generous towards her, but he has a dark side and history and can't always be transparent with her. I think he made a huge mistake in presenting Sasha as Nina's daughter when he knows she isn't. This is exactly the sort of betrayal Nina fears.

@revelle said:

I'm sure Charlotte feels abandoned by Nina bc of the divorce. They might pursue that as a reason for the bullying. That she is acting out bc of it.

I wonder if they'll also suggest Dante's abrupt departure as another potential cause. Right now Charlotte has two homes and they're both broken.

@cosmoeticadotcom said:

Let's not type the name lest a genie bring him back here.

Except genie's named Lurking don't work that way. Nor do ones called Boredom.

@Dedoc1967 said:

@revelle said:

I'm sure Charlotte feels abandoned by Nina bc of the divorce. They might pursue that as a reason for the bullying. That she is acting out bc of it.

I wonder if they'll also suggest Dante's abrupt departure as another potential cause. Right now Charlotte has two homes and they're both broken.

If they do that, I call bullshit_. Dante was a stepfather in name only. We never saw him spend any time with Charlotte.

We actually witnessed a close relationship between Charlotte and Nina. In spite of all her faults, she was a good stepmother to Charlotte.

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