@Nubyan said:

@Reasonable Kermode said:

@Nubyan said:

@Knixon: The situation got worse under the first black president? Really now?

Yep, sure did: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men

It is obvious that the police enjoy gunning down and killing black people. They've been doing that long before the nation's first black president. I believe I spoke to that.

The importance and focus should be placed on OUTRAGE that these deaths are occurring in the first place.

If it's only affecting one group of people and that group isn't white...then I guess there's no problem.

Thank you for the link. We all needed to be reminded that the color of a person's skin will determine whether the police shoots to kill vs. not shoot at all.

The police targeting and killing black people because of skin color is nonsense. If you want to help the black community just pass around this good advice from Chris Rock:

Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!

@Nubyan said:

Knixon said...

"So the actual fact that the situations for black people got worse under 8 years of the first (half-)black president, should just be ignored"

Knixon also said...

"Police shootings in New York and elsewhere down 90% over the last few decades and blacks actually LESS likely than whites to get shot by police"

So which is it? Black lives are worse off or better?

Because according to you...there's a mourning and a celebration happening simultaneously.

People can be worse off economically while not being shot as much by the police, at the same time. The problem is that the lefty media portrays the opposite of reality, on both fronts.

I want STD to get cancelled, so some Hollywood people get canned over this atrocity.

@reasonable kermode: My discussion of racism in America is considered ranting? Perhaps in your book, not so much in mine.

Trump has been in office nearly 10 months now. I doubt he has anything to do with what you're implying. But by all means, give him the credit. He surely needs the points under his Trump lead disastrous administration.

A black man comes into office as POTUS and all of a sudden the sole responsibility to solve the racial woes of the nation falls upon his shoulders and his alone. Funny how that wasn't on the list of responsibilities for all the white men who held the same position in the oval office before him.

So the focus is not so much on the mistreatment of black people caused by racial bias at the moment. That's because racist America is on pause so it can focus its attention on Muslims, refugees and other minority groups.

I'm sure you rest comfortably each night knowing that all is well in your white world. Good for you.

There are others like myself who have the audacity to hope for and put in the work to help bring about change so that we can all rest comfortably in a nation that is fair and just for everyone.

@Knixon said:

People can be worse off economically while not being shot as much by the police, at the same time. The problem is that the lefty media portrays the opposite of reality, on both fronts.

So now we're talking economics. Hmm, all this time I thought we were talking about the police shooting and killing people.

Trump couldn't solve a racial problem if his life depended on it. He's very good however at creating them.

You really need to check the real racist. Try a mirror.

Trump is a disaster plain and simple. But his supporters are still holding on to hope. Good luck with that.

You be well Reasonable Kermode. We don't agree and that's not about to change. I'd rather not waste any more of my time.

@Reasonable Kermode said:

Then you should stop constantly whining about him and get on with your life. If the economy stays strong, everyone that voted for him before will vote for him again, as will many converts, who will publicly say that he isn't PC enough, but secretly revel in how well they are doing financially. Might as well get used to it...he's here for another 7 yrs.

Try taking your own advice. Obama turned this country around and saved it from a financial crisis that would have brought the world to a screeching halt. One of the many successes of his administration.

I tried to end this with you on a positive with wishing you well...despite our differences and disagreements. Nevertheless, you couldn't resist going down the path of an asshole.

@Reasonable Kermode said:

LOL! This you "not wasting any more of my time"?

Quite the temper and potty mouth you have there. No wonder so many routine stops of blacks turn confrontational. SMH

ps Obamacare.

Burn any crosses lately? Shaking your head and waving your confederate flag. When's your next Klan march?

I don't how the hell. One guy asking people to give the show a chance. Turns into a 3 pages boring political debate. I mean really get a grip. And to be clear i don't care about the Diversity on the show. I do get annoyed by people who act like its a major breakthrough. But i really don't give a sh!t. And out of the 2 episodes ive watched. Nothing screams SJW to me. All i see is a boring melodrama with boring dull characters. Frankly Anti SJW are becoming more annoying the SJW themselves.

Taking care of millions of Americans who otherwise would not be able to receive healthcare. That damage? Meanwhile those same Americans pay so that their elected officials have the best healthcare possible.

A country that wants the support of its people while at the same time won't support those same people isn't much of a country.

Trump claims to be so smart. A smart guy like that...despite not knowing how complicated healthcare is, should be able fix Obamacare.

There's no alleged racism. There is racism.

@Nygma-0999 said:

I don't how the hell. One guy asking people to give the show a chance. Turns into a 3 pages boring political debate. I mean really get a grip. And to be clear i don't care about the Diversity on the show. I do get annoyed by people who act like its a major breakthrough. But i really don't give a sh!t. And out of the 2 episodes ive watched. Nothing screams SJW to me. All i see is a boring melodrama with boring dull characters. Frankly Anti SJW are becoming more annoying the SJW themselves.

My apologies for contributing to the political debate. I'm done.

Star Trek guys.... Star Trek ! :-)

Episode 3 got a bit dark! I like Discovery as a ship, early concerns over special effects are gone.

Not sure how I feel about organic drive???

@Reasonable Kermode said:

@Nubyan said:

Taking care of millions of Americans who otherwise would not be able to receive healthcare. That damage? Meanwhile those same Americans pay so that their elected officials have the best healthcare possible.

A country that wants the support of its people while at the same time won't support those same people isn't much of a country.

Trump claims to be so smart. A smart guy like that...despite not knowing how complicated healthcare is, should be able fix Obamacare.

There's no alleged racism. There is racism.

Every single democrat admits there are a lot problems with obamacare. Many people now pay much more for there insurance but have less coverage. Many have lost their family doctor. If that happened under Trump you would be screaming blue murder, but since it was a black president, you claim it's a success.

It's hard to fix because it's a trainwreck.

Sorry, but I'm not racist. You screaming that I am, because you badly lost a debate, doesn't make it so.

Is this still you "not wasting anymore of my time"??

All very well done, thank you. I tend not to have the patience to respond... diplomatically... to people who are so willfully (or maybe racially?) blind. Millions of people don't have "coverage" if they can't USE it. And millions of people being forced to buy "coverage" (that they may not be able to use) that they wouldn't choose to buy if it was their own choice, doesn't mean that millions of people will (be forced to) "lose" "coverage" that they didn't want and wouldn't have bought if it was their choice.

It doesn't even need to be "leadership" so much as getting the *** out of the way! The US economy is quite capable of thriving when meddlers like Obama (and Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren) aren't "managing" things.

Ok but Trump doesn't "give" anyone tax breaks, that's legislation that he's willing to sign rather than Obama (or president Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders etc) would veto if it even got started. And they qualify as "getting out of the way" rather than "giving" that wasn't there before. Leftys/democrats/etc view tax cuts as a "giveaway" etc versus the truth of people just keeping more of what was theirs to start with.