Thank you for help. Yes, I have to add episodes from season 12 to season 1. I did it by mistake.
I copy the data from that site:
http://www.filmpolski.pl/fp/index.php?film=127130
(It's in Polish). There are air dates of seasons' premiere and finales and numbers of all episodes. Unfortunately, there aren't air dates of all episodes (only season premiere and finale).
I'm wondering about the season order, because it says "Sezon 1997/1998", "Sezon 1998/1999" and so on. Are these official seasons from the network? I mean, if this is a soap opera that runs continously, our rule is to put all episodes into 1 season only:
"Episodes are sometimes not split into proper seasons. This is often the case with soap opera and anime series. These shows should only have one season which contains all the episodes."
What I mean: If these are not official seasons, you could put ALL episodes into season 1. Later, when you're done, you can create episode groups to sort them.
I think that's also easier to add for you! You just have to create the 3500 episodes and they will automatically add the correct episode number each time you add them.
Do you know what I mean? Here's a German example of a soap opera, but incomplete:
There are air dates of seasons' premiere and finales and numbers of all episodes. Unfortunately, there aren't air dates of all episodes (only season premiere and finale).
Ah, that's sad. Do you think that you can find those somewhere else? If I find the time, I'm going to research ...
What you have to do: Find out if these seasons are official seasons or not?
and add all 3500+ episodes into this season. That's a lot of mechanical work, but I think it's easier.
And you don't have to care about air dates during this, because you can add those later. I can help you with that.
If you want, you can do this in steps - let's say the first 608 episodes. And then we add the info that we have and create an episode group? That's just a suggestion -> you can decide what works best for you!
please forget what I wrote to you 2 weeks ago! It's a bad idea to put all episodes of this specific show into 1 season because there are too many of them. Instead, we can make an exception and ignore the general rule. Which means it's alright to create the seasons according to your source!
However, I had to fix 1 major mistake that you did. When you add episodes to seasons, you should always start with the episode number "1" per each season and go on. You started with the episode name as episode number - that's wrong. For example, you began season 2 with episode no. 112. But that's not correct - episode name and episode no. are different things. You can always change the name to "Odcinek 112" later -> it should look like this:
Episode number is "1" - and the Polish episode name is "Odcinek 112". That's how it's done here on TMDb.
Yesterday, I fixed all your data and added the rest of the episodes to all seasons. Which means the general structure of seasons and episodes should be correct now:
It also means that you don't have to add any episodes anymore. But it would be great if you could check for mistakes that I might have done! I always do dumb errors when I add too much data - and I'm sure there are a few mistakes. And there's still lots of data missing that you or anyone else can add in the future. Here are some specific pointers from me:
1.) Episode air dates
I added all air dates for season premieres and finals according to your source. I also added all air dates for the last 2 complete seasons:
I searched per google images for "klan tvp [Episode]" and saved images with dimensions 1920x1080px. For example: klan tvp 3507. And then I checked with the website if it's the correct image. It takes lots of time, but it also looks good.
3.) Polish episode descriptions
I did not add any Polish episode descriptions, because I don't speak the language. If you want to add them, please be aware of our guidelines in the Contribution Bible:
"Episode overviews should follow the same rules as the other types of overviews. No big spoilers and the overview should not be used to recap the whole episode. [...] Overviews should describe the plot of the movie. They should be to the point, spoiler-free and brief. A few lines at most."
Please don't add the entire descriptions from your source! You can shorten them to a few sentences without spoilers - that's alright!
4.) English episode titles
The English episode titles between episode 1293 in season 2007/2008 and episode 3146 in season 2016/2017 are wrong and have to be corrected. I couldn't find the time to do this. It's a boring task and there are soooo many episodes - perhaps I'll do this from time to time. On the other hand, the Polish episode titles should all be good.
5.) Episode group for all episodes
Just for info -> I created an episode group that includes all 3508 episodes of the show - but the page builds very slowly. If you want to see them anyway:
Reply by janar
on August 11, 2019 at 11:08 AM
@DiamondLeaf wrote:
Thanks for your report!
Hello,
it looks like you want to add all episodes of this tv show to the database. I can help you a bit -> but:
Unfortunately, I see 1 major mistake right at the start -> you put the episodes for season 1 into season 12:
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/season/12/episode/1
This is season 12 -> look at the url above!
We moderators can't change the season number, so you have to add all those episodes again into season 1 here:
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/season/1/episode/1
You should do this now, otherwise you get confused later.
Also, can I ask from which source you copy the data? Especially the air dates and the season numbers?
Reply by DiamondLeaf
on August 11, 2019 at 1:29 PM
Thank you for help. Yes, I have to add episodes from season 12 to season 1. I did it by mistake. I copy the data from that site: http://www.filmpolski.pl/fp/index.php?film=127130 (It's in Polish). There are air dates of seasons' premiere and finales and numbers of all episodes. Unfortunately, there aren't air dates of all episodes (only season premiere and finale).
Reply by janar
on August 11, 2019 at 1:54 PM
@DiamondLeaf wrote:
Okay, I understand.
I'm wondering about the season order, because it says "Sezon 1997/1998", "Sezon 1998/1999" and so on. Are these official seasons from the network? I mean, if this is a soap opera that runs continously, our rule is to put all episodes into 1 season only:
https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f73eb49251416e71000026#59f7ac4d9251413e93000016
"Episodes are sometimes not split into proper seasons. This is often the case with soap opera and anime series. These shows should only have one season which contains all the episodes."
What I mean: If these are not official seasons, you could put ALL episodes into season 1. Later, when you're done, you can create episode groups to sort them.
I think that's also easier to add for you! You just have to create the 3500 episodes and they will automatically add the correct episode number each time you add them.
Do you know what I mean? Here's a German example of a soap opera, but incomplete:
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/13945-gute-zeiten-schlechte-zeiten/season/1
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/13945-gute-zeiten-schlechte-zeiten/episode_group/5ce433520e0a26381ccda831
Ah, that's sad. Do you think that you can find those somewhere else? If I find the time, I'm going to research ...
What you have to do: Find out if these seasons are official seasons or not?
Reply by DiamondLeaf
on August 11, 2019 at 1:58 PM
You're right. It's soap opera and there are'nt official seasons. Sorry for my mistake.
Reply by janar
on August 11, 2019 at 2:18 PM
@DiamondLeaf wrote:
If that's the case, then you can go to season 1 here:
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/season/1/edit?active_nav_item=episodes
and add all 3500+ episodes into this season. That's a lot of mechanical work, but I think it's easier.
And you don't have to care about air dates during this, because you can add those later. I can help you with that.
If you want, you can do this in steps - let's say the first 608 episodes. And then we add the info that we have and create an episode group? That's just a suggestion -> you can decide what works best for you!
Reply by janar
on August 25, 2019 at 4:27 PM
Hello @DiamondLeaf,
please forget what I wrote to you 2 weeks ago! It's a bad idea to put all episodes of this specific show into 1 season because there are too many of them. Instead, we can make an exception and ignore the general rule. Which means it's alright to create the seasons according to your source!
However, I had to fix 1 major mistake that you did. When you add episodes to seasons, you should always start with the episode number "1" per each season and go on. You started with the episode name as episode number - that's wrong. For example, you began season 2 with episode no. 112. But that's not correct - episode name and episode no. are different things. You can always change the name to "Odcinek 112" later -> it should look like this:
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/season/2/episode/1?language=pl-PL
Episode number is "1" - and the Polish episode name is "Odcinek 112". That's how it's done here on TMDb.
Yesterday, I fixed all your data and added the rest of the episodes to all seasons. Which means the general structure of seasons and episodes should be correct now:
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/seasons
It also means that you don't have to add any episodes anymore. But it would be great if you could check for mistakes that I might have done! I always do dumb errors when I add too much data - and I'm sure there are a few mistakes. And there's still lots of data missing that you or anyone else can add in the future. Here are some specific pointers from me:
1.) Episode air dates
I added all air dates for season premieres and finals according to your source. I also added all air dates for the last 2 complete seasons:
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/season/21
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/season/22
My source is this one:
https://www.filmweb.pl/serial/Klan-1997-38927
I'm not sure if this source is 100% complete and correct -> but it looks very good.
2.) Episode backdrops
I added episode backdrops for the last 2 complete seasons:
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/season/21
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/season/22
My source is the official website:
https://vod.tvp.pl/website/klan,1667844/video
I searched per google images for "klan tvp [Episode]" and saved images with dimensions 1920x1080px. For example: klan tvp 3507. And then I checked with the website if it's the correct image. It takes lots of time, but it also looks good.
3.) Polish episode descriptions
I did not add any Polish episode descriptions, because I don't speak the language. If you want to add them, please be aware of our guidelines in the Contribution Bible:
https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/tv/59f743289251416e71000037#59f744609251416e71000041
https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/movie/59f3b16d9251414f20000001#59f73b759251416e71000002
"Episode overviews should follow the same rules as the other types of overviews. No big spoilers and the overview should not be used to recap the whole episode. [...] Overviews should describe the plot of the movie. They should be to the point, spoiler-free and brief. A few lines at most."
Please don't add the entire descriptions from your source! You can shorten them to a few sentences without spoilers - that's alright!
4.) English episode titles
The English episode titles between episode 1293 in season 2007/2008 and episode 3146 in season 2016/2017 are wrong and have to be corrected. I couldn't find the time to do this. It's a boring task and there are soooo many episodes - perhaps I'll do this from time to time. On the other hand, the Polish episode titles should all be good.
5.) Episode group for all episodes
Just for info -> I created an episode group that includes all 3508 episodes of the show - but the page builds very slowly. If you want to see them anyway:
https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/6489-klan/episode_group/5d60db0454f6eb00149ae2bb/group/5d60db196dea3a0015937aa3
If you have any questions, or if you need any help, just open this discussion again and ask/reply here!