Yeah, I stopped reading the synopsis at "a troubled woman on the edge of divorce."

Lol thanks for the review, going to pass now. But I do like rape revenge films. I Spit on Your Grave series is great...and is actual rape no doubt about it. Revenge (2017) is also a great one if anyone is interested.

@OddRob said:

Lol thanks for the review, going to pass now. But I do like rape revenge films. I Spit on Your Grave series is great...and is actual rape no doubt about it. Revenge (2017) is also a great one if anyone is interested.

Yes Revenge was a good one, visually interesting and shot. The I Spit on your Grave movies are okay, the ones with Sarah Butler having the best kills. I can enjoy a good rape revenge movie, it's just that the modern crop of movies have that very distinct "men are bad" tone that I hate. All the guys in Revenge were bad but I never got that "all men are bad" feel like I got with this movie or Promising Young Woman. Still I would have almost recommended this movie if either the woman was just a crazy Jodi Arias type or if the guy was your stereotypical clear-cut rapist, then I could cheer for his death.

There's a movie called Red White & Blue where a girl who has AIDS has unprotected sex with lots of men to intentionally infect them. One of these men gives his sick mother a blood transfusion and unknowingly gives her AIDS. In retaliation he kills and dismembers the woman... and he's the villain of the story, by the way, because he also rapes the woman before he kills her. If he had just killed her the audience might not sympathize with the poor woman intentionally infecting men with AIDS.

@cswood said:

@OddRob said:

Lol thanks for the review, going to pass now. But I do like rape revenge films. I Spit on Your Grave series is great...and is actual rape no doubt about it. Revenge (2017) is also a great one if anyone is interested.

Yes Revenge was a good one, visually interesting and shot. The I Spit on your Grave movies are okay, the ones with Sarah Butler having the best kills. I can enjoy a good rape revenge movie, it's just that the modern crop of movies have that very distinct "men are bad" tone that I hate. All the guys in Revenge were bad but I never got that "all men are bad" feel like I got with this movie or Promising Young Woman. Still I would have almost recommended this movie if either the woman was just a crazy Jodi Arias type or if the guy was your stereotypical clear-cut rapist, then I could cheer for his death.

There's a movie called Red White & Blue where a girl who has AIDS has unprotected sex with lots of men to intentionally infect them. One of these men gives his sick mother a blood transfusion and unknowingly gives her AIDS. In retaliation he kills and dismembers the woman... and he's the villain of the story, by the way, because he also rapes the woman before he kills her. If he had just killed her the audience might not sympathize with the poor woman intentionally infecting men with AIDS.

Agreed. But I usually accept that 'all men are evil' in revenge rape films. There are some where men actually try to help and arent evil and the lead has to come to terms with that fact and that fact they are a fucking monster by this point. Really by the numbers stuff. But hey, we know what we are getting into. Its like going into a serial killer movie and being surprised by how many people they kill. And that sounds like a bullshit movie. He should have rape, tortured, and than took that bitch apart piece by piece in a secluded cabin in the woods.

@cswood said:

On the plus side it's well shot, some great cinematography here,and the pacing is effective. The problem is the rape and the rapist (as they always are). I'mma spoil the whole movie because this needs to be disussed.

So the woman is flirting with her sister's husband, kisses him, gets drunk, falls asleep, wakes up to said brother-in-law screwing her. At no point does she say stop, scream, fight, call the police, etc because then the movie wouldn't happen. So later she confronts the guy and he says it was consensual. He seems genuine but I'm assuming he's gaslighting her and actually did it on purpose because it's that kind of movie. She later lures him to a secluded location under the pretext of sex and brutally kills him and turns him into ice cream (easily the most interesting thing about the movie).

Basically, the movie leads us to believe through flashbacks and interactions that the woman is nuts, and I was hoping the rape wasn't a rape given how oddly it's shot and was hoping the twist would be she was just trying to ruin her sister's marriage out of jealousy, but having looked up this writer's filmography she likes to write about rape so that was unlikely.

Also her husband in the movie doesn't want to have sex with her because, well, she's an unsexy weirdo and unpleasant to be around. Also, if you thought you had consensual sex with a woman and she later starts accusing you of rape it's time to lawyer up and file a restraining order. And assuming he raped her on purpose, why would he be dumb enough to allow himself to be blindfolded and strip naked while she's fully clothed? My God this guy was an idiot.

I would have liked this movie a hell of a lot more if it wasn't centered around a rape. Why are women not allowed to just be crazy anymore? Just make a crazy broken jealous woman who kills a guy, cuts him up, and turns his bones into ice cream and I'd have been totally on board. But nope, it's metoo time, gotta put a rape in there. Can't show a woman doing horrible things unless she's been raped. What else should we have expected from the co-writer and director of "Rape Card", a story set in a world where rape is legal. Ugh.

Actually she does say "don't...stop" when the deed is being done, you can take it as however it sounds. The murder scene was really hard to watch, and I've never seen anyone puke for real in a film!

@Kaiserblade said:

Actually she does say "don't...stop" when the deed is being done, you can take it as however it sounds.

But that's exactly my problem with the movie. Ambiguity about rape in this day and age is incredibly damaging and irresponsible.

Actual "held down knife to the throat" rape aside, there are so many real life situations where a woman had consensual sex and then changed her mind later either out of shame or because she didn't want to get caught cheating and accused the guy(s) of rape and he was punished, and in nearly all cases she was not. We make movies about women getting revenge for rape because duh, we all agree rapists are trash and deserve what they get, but women who are either crazy, misremembered, or knowingly falsely accuse, we don't make movies about their brutal deaths.

So although I can admit the film was well shot and the murder was done effectively, that one ambiguous aspect spoils it for me. If the cops had somehow found out she murdered the guy, then okay, but she gets away with it scott free. I have the same problem with slasher movies where the killer wins. I don't watch movies to see innocent people's murders go unavenged.

@acontributor said:

There is a concerted effort to demonize and marginalize straight white men. Notice that rapists are always white in entertainment even though whites are the least likely to commit rape of any race. Mind you I'm not saying that white people don't rape or that other races are not marginalized or oppressed.

That's because of white women. In black entertainment black men are painted as rapists/abusers just as often, especially darker skinned black men. Also it's more socially acceptable to paint white men as villains because no one cares if they complain, it's like how Nazis are the defacto villains even though communists like Mao and Stalin killed more people than Hitler ever did, but you can openly claim to be a communist and not get the same treatment as Nazis/supremacists.

And don't get me wrong, rapes happen and should be demonized, but it only goes one way. Every other month I see an article of a female teacher taking advantage of an underaged male student, that's statutory rape, but it's never talked about and when it is it's laughed off. If male teachers were out here banging their underaged students at the same frequency the feminists would be bringing it up 24/7

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They also want to make it taboo to question whether a rape actually took place in the case of any ambiguity or lack of evidence.

Because no one cares about those men. I know two guys who were falsely accused and have evidence to exonerate them, but one of them still has trouble finding work he believes because his name was published in connection to the accusations but no one cares that he was proven to be innocent. I've seen and heard women say outrageous things during a divorce/child custody hearing, it's so disheartening knowing that all it takes is a Facebook post with no evidence to ruin you.

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Finally and most importantly they want to make it taboo to forgive rapists even though that's the victims best chance of moving on and having a normal life after such a traumatic event.

Honestly I don't think I'd ever be able to forgive a rapist. I personally do see rapists and child molesters as the scum of the earth, followed by false accusers. I would much rather be accused of a murder than a rape, at least you can justify a murder in some cases.

I think we can all agree that actual rape is horrible and the rapists should be pulled apart limb from limb by horses. But I think that women that make false rape accusations should also get the same treatment. They ruin lives, people lose jobs, friends, and family because 'believe all women' bullshit. Men never get a fair deal and even when the truth does come out the accuser gets a fucking slap on the wrist. Not only is this injustice its also a slap in the face of real rape survivors. A really good doc about this is 'The Red Pill - A Cassie Jaye Documentary.' She was a feminist who def got red pilled hard while making her doc.