Discuti The Cloverfield Paradox

I admire how Netflix and Paramount just tossed this out there right after announcing it during the Super Bowl. I can't say I found the actual movie terribly compelling, though. (I also didn't care for 10 Cloverfield Lane, though, either.)

The lead actress was appealing, but none of the rest of the cast were interesting. Stuff just...happens, without any logical reason and often in unexplained, almost supernatural ways.

The volume of cliches, jump scares, plot "twists," pseudoscience, and melodramatic musical cues got a bit silly after two hours. It felt an awful lot like someone trying to create an Event Horizon II without the stomach for violence.

I guess it looked pretty good for a movie made on a handful of sets with lots of solid space CG. But if we can't connect with the characters, we can't care what happens to them. And throwing in a lot of pointless conflict, especially the needless monologuing at the end, just wastes our time.

2/10 would not watch again.

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It was entertaining but definitely the Cloverfield bits were shoehorned in and frankly, crap. The last scene in particular. And you could've take out everything on Earth with the husband. Seems like those scenes were only filmed to connect it to the franchise.

Life was better but this was watchable and the effects and cast were good. But this should've been a standalone film.

@cswood said:

Well I'll be the one descending opinion and say I found it pretty entertaining, mainly because they really keep you in the dark for a long time about what's going on and I have fun figuring out what the deal was. I really love the part with the arm.

Comparatively I found it much better than last year's Life as far as space station based sci-fi horror goes. The ending with the big monster was kinda meh, but otherwise an entertaining little sci-fi thriller.

Your opinion is somehow heading downward? ;) .... wait, maybe you meant "dissenting" lol. I liked it too. Kept me interested.

@chilone said:

@cswood said:

Well I'll be the one descending opinion and say I found it pretty entertaining, mainly because they really keep you in the dark for a long time about what's going on and I have fun figuring out what the deal was. I really love the part with the arm.

Comparatively I found it much better than last year's Life as far as space station based sci-fi horror goes. The ending with the big monster was kinda meh, but otherwise an entertaining little sci-fi thriller.

Your opinion is somehow heading downward? ;) .... wait, maybe you meant "dissenting" lol. I liked it too. Kept me interested.

I knew that was the wrong word and I meant to go back and double check and forgot lol

I enjoyed it. I agree with many complaints (especially the shoe-horning) but was pleased with the movie overall. I thought the acting was fine other than the fact that whatshername can't seem to learn English but keeps getting roles in American films.

What I didn't like:

  • The Gyro in the Russian and he is walking around fine
  • Seemingly nothing to do with other Cloverfield movies
  • Eva runs away instead of helping the German fight Jensen
  • Motile arm has knowledge somehow (but I also sorta liked the arm too)

Other than these things, I was pretty satisfied. I even liked the end.

Would watch again. 7.5/10

@Renovatio said:

@Satch_the_man said:

That seems too bad. Cloverfield was a fun popcorn movie, and 10 Cloverfield Lane was a bit better. Why are they only doing this through Netflix?

I think Netflix are actively trying to get exclusives on movies without a theatrical run... they want to build a habit of an online premier... Even if they had the ability to give it a theatrical run, I doubt they'd do it...

Streaming, as good an option as it is, just isn't cinema... I'm glad that there are directors and filmmakers who are resisting it (e.g. Nolan).

The original Cloverfield is a fun rental, but it's even more fun when you're watching it with a hundred other scared moviegoers and the screen is bigger than your house 😉

I would like to see both options in a near future. I know that Sean Parker with the backing of Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson among others, are involved in a project called "Screening Room" that is heavily opposed by James Cameron and Christopher Nolan. The project does not want to shut down movie theaters or make us forget the cinematic experience. Nothing can replace the sticky floors and the smell of popcorn.

But there is and always will be a percentage of people who can't make it there. And I'm one of them. I haven't been to a movie theater in almost ten years because of my arthritis. It's also for parents with young children, the elderly, for those who feel uncomfortable in crowds, or those who've had enough of cell phones and chatter etc.

If "Screening Room" falls through I hope some kind of deal can be done in the future so that Netflix or some other streaming service can offer theatrical releases within a month or so after the initial release. That way there's plenty of time for box office profits. This would be an on-demand service for a fee of course.

There are illegal sites using this technology and they are fast, new movies available the day after they premier. I must admit I have been using these sites sometimes since I can't go to the theater. If I just had the option to pay for it, I would. Movies is my passion.

@cswood said:

Comparatively I found it much better than last year's Life as far as space station based sci-fi horror goes. The ending with the big monster was kinda meh, but otherwise an entertaining little sci-fi thriller.

What was the 'threat' in this movie? The 'other dimension'??? Well I guess it seemed lethal at select moments but then faded away to non-existent, as if the filmakers couldn't afford any more effects or ran out of red-shirts to kill off. Terrible. Just terrible.

At least Life has a coherent story and a steady build-up in tension.

Usually if you just unplug the particle accelerator for 30 seconds and then let it reboot, the earth will reappear.

Of course that would have made for a much shorter movie.

@volkstraum said:

@cswood said:

Comparatively I found it much better than last year's Life as far as space station based sci-fi horror goes. The ending with the big monster was kinda meh, but otherwise an entertaining little sci-fi thriller.

What was the 'threat' in this movie? The 'other dimension'??? Well I guess it seemed lethal at select moments but then faded away to non-existent, as if the filmakers couldn't afford any more effects or ran out of red-shirts to kill off. Terrible. Just terrible.

At least Life has a coherent story and a steady build-up in tension.

The threat was that the space station was being torn apart and they had to make it back to their universe before it was too late.

Life had a lot of dumb people doing dumb things, an invincible monster with no weaknesses so I knew everyone was doomed so why should I care about them, and a terrible heavy handed ending that insults your intelligence.

This movie has flaws but it did a pretty good job of getting me to care about the lead character. The way they gradually reveal what happened to her kids, realizes her alternate version's kids are still alive, wanting to go see them, then having to choose to stay with the station in order to save it. And that message she leaves for her alternate self was great. The only real dumb parts for me were Chris O'Dowd's death and the gyroscope being in the Russian guy's body, but I can at least write that off as parallel universe anomalies.

There is no excuse why a space station dealing with potentially deadly germs from Mars doesn't have a purge button.

This film does pay homage to Sam Raimi's Evil Dead. If you've seen Evil Dead you'll know what I mean! 😆

@AlienFanatic said:

@simian_ninja said:

This movie is such a mess, they made a really bad choice by taking a different film and trying to place it under the Cloverfield banner. What's worse is that they didn't even try to hide the information, I have no idea what their next movie will be like - probably terrible.

[SPOILERS BELOW]

You know, I read comments about how folks feel this movie was shoehorned into the franchise, but I didn't give it much thought. But then I thought of the ending and realized just how lazily it was done. I realize that they tried to tie in the first movie to this one by inserting a cameo of the monster and by inferring that it was the escape capsule that splashed down in the waters of NYC in the ferris wheel shot in the original movie. But that just doesn't hold up. The events of the original were always portrayed as "present day."

There were no power blackouts or food or energy shortages in the original. Yet we're supposed to believe that the capsule splashes down in the midst of the original movie's crisis? How does that work? If they time traveled, the conversation between mission control and the heroine's boyfriend cannot occur. They won't exist if the events of the 2008 movie took place in the past. And if this is all supposed to occur in the future, how do you explain the lack of an energy crisis in the original movie? Just inserting a few jet noises and a cameo doesn't paper over a thin premise.

What a silly, pointless mess.

You do realize that this film and the ending of the film does not take place on the Earth that we see in the original film? They didn't time travel. Perhaps you missed the explanation that the device they were trying to get to work could possibly open a paradox across time and dimensions. This film ties in closer to what we see happening in the second film, but there are some things that are different between the two as well. The monster at the end of this movie is not the same one we see in the original film because it is so much bigger. It does explain the monster in the first film, just not in the way you apparently think it does.

6/10

@fan_of_films said:

This film does pay homage to Sam Raimi's Evil Dead. If you've seen Evil Dead you'll know what I mean! 😆

Not every severed arm in the movies is homage to Evil Dead. Maybe it was homage to Adams Family? Don't be ridiculous. As for what I think about this pile of garbage, well, it was simply embarrassing piece of crap. Solid 1/10.

Regarding comnents about the film as a "silly pointless mess"... I guess everyone knows it's a film industry so product has to be made to keep people employed. This is why pointless films get made. Films get made to keep people in work as much as they get made to chase profit. But yeah... this film was kinda pointless in terms of expanding the franchise! Not much link to Cloverfield.

It was not free. It's on Netflix.

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