Discuti The Cloverfield Paradox

I admire how Netflix and Paramount just tossed this out there right after announcing it during the Super Bowl. I can't say I found the actual movie terribly compelling, though. (I also didn't care for 10 Cloverfield Lane, though, either.)

The lead actress was appealing, but none of the rest of the cast were interesting. Stuff just...happens, without any logical reason and often in unexplained, almost supernatural ways.

The volume of cliches, jump scares, plot "twists," pseudoscience, and melodramatic musical cues got a bit silly after two hours. It felt an awful lot like someone trying to create an Event Horizon II without the stomach for violence.

I guess it looked pretty good for a movie made on a handful of sets with lots of solid space CG. But if we can't connect with the characters, we can't care what happens to them. And throwing in a lot of pointless conflict, especially the needless monologuing at the end, just wastes our time.

2/10 would not watch again.

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where can i find the 2 hour version of the film you watched?

it's on Netflix

@Renovatio said:

it's on Netflix

the 2 hour version?

That seems too bad. Cloverfield was a fun popcorn movie, and 10 Cloverfield Lane was a bit better. Why are they only doing this through Netflix?

@Satch_the_man said:

That seems too bad. Cloverfield was a fun popcorn movie, and 10 Cloverfield Lane was a bit better. Why are they only doing this through Netflix?

Likely because Netflix paid them a considerable amount of money and they didn't feel a theatrical run would be more profitable. The quality, at least in the script is (imo) no different than what we used to call "Direct to Video." I suppose we can relabel it "Direct to Streaming." I can't imagine it was terribly expensive, other than a few sets and effects, because the cast was, with the exception of the main actress, comprised of B-list and character actors.

@ultraviolet No, the one hour 42 minutes movie... I didn't realise there was a longer version...

@Satch_the_man said:

That seems too bad. Cloverfield was a fun popcorn movie, and 10 Cloverfield Lane was a bit better. Why are they only doing this through Netflix?

I think Netflix are actively trying to get exclusives on movies without a theatrical run... they want to build a habit of an online premier... Even if they had the ability to give it a theatrical run, I doubt they'd do it...

Streaming, as good an option as it is, just isn't cinema... I'm glad that there are directors and filmmakers who are resisting it (e.g. Nolan).

The original Cloverfield is a fun rental, but it's even more fun when you're watching it with a hundred other scared moviegoers and the screen is bigger than your house 😉

This movie is such a mess, they made a really bad choice by taking a different film and trying to place it under the Cloverfield banner. What's worse is that they didn't even try to hide the information, I have no idea what their next movie will be like - probably terrible.

@simian_ninja said:

This movie is such a mess, they made a really bad choice by taking a different film and trying to place it under the Cloverfield banner. What's worse is that they didn't even try to hide the information, I have no idea what their next movie will be like - probably terrible.

[SPOILERS BELOW]

You know, I read comments about how folks feel this movie was shoehorned into the franchise, but I didn't give it much thought. But then I thought of the ending and realized just how lazily it was done. I realize that they tried to tie in the first movie to this one by inserting a cameo of the monster and by inferring that it was the escape capsule that splashed down in the waters of NYC in the ferris wheel shot in the original movie. But that just doesn't hold up. The events of the original were always portrayed as "present day."

There were no power blackouts or food or energy shortages in the original. Yet we're supposed to believe that the capsule splashes down in the midst of the original movie's crisis? How does that work? If they time traveled, the conversation between mission control and the heroine's boyfriend cannot occur. They won't exist if the events of the 2008 movie took place in the past. And if this is all supposed to occur in the future, how do you explain the lack of an energy crisis in the original movie? Just inserting a few jet noises and a cameo doesn't paper over a thin premise.

What a silly, pointless mess.

@Renovatio said:

@ultraviolet No, the one hour 42 minutes movie... I didn't realise there was a longer version...

either did i. although it looks like @AlienFanatic has watched it, reading his starting post

Free? How so? Don't you pay for your Netflix subscription?

@ultraviolet said:

it looks like @AlienFanatic has watched it, reading his starting post

I would think OP rounding up the likely explanation.

Oh, and just finished. God, that was tedious. So unsatisfying, like a speech that is nothing but blurb talking points strung together.

Well I'll be the one descending opinion and say I found it pretty entertaining, mainly because they really keep you in the dark for a long time about what's going on and I have fun figuring out what the deal was. I really love the part with the arm.

Comparatively I found it much better than last year's Life as far as space station based sci-fi horror goes. The ending with the big monster was kinda meh, but otherwise an entertaining little sci-fi thriller.

I also found it pretty entertaining. The clover field series has always been more of an anthology series anyway. That will suck for the people who were really hoping for a movie that informs the last two but this really does feel like a standalone film. It's not really about time travel so much as it's about being sucked into an alternate reality.

I'm trying to go for an entertaining, informative youtube channel so, if you have the time, take a look. Hope you enjoy what you see and if you have any thoughts or criticisms, i'd love to hear them. Thanks in advance. Review right here- https://youtu.be/hJYnJuDPdn0

@cswood said:

Well I'll be the one descending opinion and say I found it pretty entertaining, mainly because they really keep you in the dark for a long time about what's going on and I have fun figuring out what the deal was. I really love the part with the arm.

Comparatively I found it much better than last year's Life as far as space station based sci-fi horror goes. The ending with the big monster was kinda meh, but otherwise an entertaining little sci-fi thriller.

Nothing wrong with that. If you liked it, you liked it. I didn't really go in with any particular expectations, though I always HOPE we'll spend more time with the monster. (Big time monster movie fan, here.) I never attack anyone for liking something I didn't, though I CAN be vehement about my own opinions about a film. Not in this case, though. I'm firmly, completely, utterly indifferent to it.

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