Some of us can only hope that 2049's performance at the box office will, indeed, prevent a third Blade Runner film from being made.

I don't say this because I disliked BR 2049-- in fact I thought it was very good. No one asked for a sequel to Blade Runner, and, in my humble opinion, sequels for any genre of film made more than 10 years or so after the original film are generally creative failures.

But not with Blade Runner 2049. Amazingly, in this case, lightning did indeed strike twice.

But can it strike three times? I just don't think so-- even if another BR film was released relatively quickly (say within the next five years) by the same director.

Rudely Murray, you are right that this last film, like the original, was thoughtful and took its time to unfold.

But would a studio be willing to finance a THIRD such very expensive film, which, based on the performance of its predecessors, would also lose money (at least during its theatrical release)?

Or would the director be pressured to make a more profitable, fast-paced straight-up action film, followed by many others, by different directors, thereby diluting the franchise?

I fear that this is in fact what would happen.

So I hope no other Blade Runner films are made. Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049 are fine as a two-film group.

Just my opinion.

I have to agree with northcoast on this one. BR2049 was indeed not only as good as the original but IMO is actually better. The chances of them not messing up a third installment is very low especially after the dismal box office. The studio will be inclined to tailor it to suit the majority population as they drag their jaws through the streets like common simians. We just have to face the fact that general audiences are not interested in having to think when they go see a film. They have been thinking all week at their dismal jobs, can't they just go to a movie and watch someone get the shit kick outta of them in them peace? Gosh! All this thinking and philosophying. It's for the birds I tell ya! I needs 'plosions! I need to see someone get shot in the face! (And I love John Wick too BTW). I can't help but think of that scene in Idiocracy when the cops make Swiss cheese outta Frito's car and while it is happening a crowd of people are gathering around cheering and fist pumping including Frito himself. Oi vey. Here is the scene

You think Einstein walked around thinking everyone was a bunch of dumbasses?

@Invidia said:

Well, movie theaters are on the way to go the way of the Dodo if you catch my drift. This is why they have to charge such exorbitant prices for concessions. There are even talks about releasing movies straight to pay per view as it is getting increasingly popular to simply stay home and watch stuff online. That way you don't have to deal with pee stained seats, maze like roads, and having to deal with the neaderthals that frequent those places. Although I am not sure how many people would be willing to pay $50 a movie ticket. Unless of course you invited a bunch of people over and have them pitch in. Sounds like fun actually.

@Invidia said:

Maybe that's still another reason why PAY TV makes so much on films?

Because maybe they take up a collection and then invite others over to watch it thus also making a profit from staying home to watch it???

Was also surprised to see how only 5 people in a building of 16 UNITS were hooked up to CABLE.

When the CABLE TV guy came to fix my connection and opened up the box, I noticed it, and he also confirmed it.

Which was also ODD, because the last time I'd seen it almost every apt was hooked up to it.

And there's also only about 4 or 5 SATELLITE dishes hooked up in the rest of the property which probably also has about 300 units in it.

So apparently MOST people who live here are back to watching ATENNA TV again now, where they also only get about 4 or 5 channels, like we use to get back in the OLD DAYS (if one also had one of those ROUNDED UHV antennas hooked up).

So that might also be a FACTOR as well.

The RICH have gotten so FKing GREEDY that MOST people who use to go see films simply can't AFFORD to pay to see them anymore???

We also use to have a DOLLAR theatre here which doesn't exist anymore. The films weren't NEW RELEASES, but the place was also PACKED each time that you went to see a MOVIE there.

We also had another place to go as well, but all we have now is the expensive SUPERPLEX place (which thankfully also offers the DISCOUNTED HALF PRICED TICKET PRICE at certain TIMES and on certain DAYS).

Most people are now cutting the cord since you can now get channels ala carte directly on the web site. They then use Roku or Apple tv to add the channels to watch in the bedrooms and living rooms. Yeah, unless cable TV starts offering ala carte instead of making you pay these high prices for these channel bundles where you do not watch most of them they will also go the way of the Blockbuster. Like if I seriously only had to pay for the channels I was interested in would have like 15 channels in my bundle.

@movie_nazi said:

@Invidia said:

Well, movie theaters are on the way to go the way of the Dodo if you catch my drift. This is why they have to charge such exorbitant prices for concessions. There are even talks about releasing movies straight to pay per view as it is getting increasingly popular to simply stay home and watch stuff online. That way you don't have to deal with pee stained seats, maze like roads, and having to deal with the neaderthals that frequent those places. Although I am not sure how many people would be willing to pay $50 a movie ticket. Unless of course you invited a bunch of people over and have them pitch in. Sounds like fun actually.

Umm... Cinemas are going the way of the dodo because an elderly, curmudgeon on here is complaining that the sound effects in a theatre is too loud lol. I think the future is bright for cinemas, just because you may not like what's on release doesn't mean the majority will vacate cinemas because of you.

@Charlton said:

@movie_nazi said:

@Invidia said:

Well, movie theaters are on the way to go the way of the Dodo if you catch my drift. This is why they have to charge such exorbitant prices for concessions. There are even talks about releasing movies straight to pay per view as it is getting increasingly popular to simply stay home and watch stuff online. That way you don't have to deal with pee stained seats, maze like roads, and having to deal with the neaderthals that frequent those places. Although I am not sure how many people would be willing to pay $50 a movie ticket. Unless of course you invited a bunch of people over and have them pitch in. Sounds like fun actually.

Umm... Cinemas are going the way of the dodo because an elderly, curmudgeon on here is complaining that the sound effects in a theatre is too loud lol. I think the future is bright for cinemas, just because you may not like what's on release doesn't mean the majority will vacate cinemas because of you.

Umm, apparently Wall Street disagrees with your assessment that "the future is bright for cinemas" .

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2017/08/02/movie-theaters-getting-pinched-sluggish-box-office-movies-viewing-home/532256001/

@movie_nazi said:

@Charlton said:

@movie_nazi said:

@Invidia said:

Well, movie theaters are on the way to go the way of the Dodo if you catch my drift. This is why they have to charge such exorbitant prices for concessions. There are even talks about releasing movies straight to pay per view as it is getting increasingly popular to simply stay home and watch stuff online. That way you don't have to deal with pee stained seats, maze like roads, and having to deal with the neaderthals that frequent those places. Although I am not sure how many people would be willing to pay $50 a movie ticket. Unless of course you invited a bunch of people over and have them pitch in. Sounds like fun actually.

Umm... Cinemas are going the way of the dodo because an elderly, curmudgeon on here is complaining that the sound effects in a theatre is too loud lol. I think the future is bright for cinemas, just because you may not like what's on release doesn't mean the majority will vacate cinemas because of you.

Umm, apparently Wall Street disagrees with your assessment that "the future is bright for cinemas" .

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2017/08/02/movie-theaters-getting-pinched-sluggish-box-office-movies-viewing-home/532256001/

The turnout is apparently diminishing in the States only and a lot has happened in since August 3rd from Netflix's side.

@Invidia said:

But the CABLE co also now MONITORS your internet use and if you exceed a certain limit they'll also charge you MORE for watching videos online.

Meh, they do but you have to watch A LOT of online videos before they would throttle your interwebs to the point where it annoyed you. Keep in my that they do not watch your bandwidth because they think you are circumventing them by ordering stuff ala carte directly from web sites. They are monitoring the bandwidth because they want to make sure you are not using your internet connection to run a business to which you must pay an extra fee for.

And they're also the only option you have for getting HIGH SPEED internet in town.

I thought you lived in a major metro area? I live in the burbs and I get 2 options at the moment. Spectrum (local cable providers) and ATT U verse (which is what I use).

They also ran most of the DVD rental stores out of town as well.

Netflix killed the DVD rental stores. Whats so funny is that the early developers of Netflix approached the big wigs at Blockbuster offering then a huge percentage if they backed and funded the project and they TURNED IT DOWN. (fkn dummies)

Who's laughing NOW!

@Invidia said:

@movie_nazi said:

Most people are now cutting the cord since you can now get channels ala carte directly on the web site. They then use Roku or Apple tv to add the channels to watch in the bedrooms and living rooms. Yeah, unless cable TV starts offering ala carte instead of making you pay these high prices for these channel bundles where you do not watch most of them they will also go the way of the Blockbuster. Like if I seriously only had to pay for the channels I was interested in would have like 15 channels in my bundle.

Never used this option so have no idea how it works.

But the CABLE co also now MONITORS your internet use and if you exceed a certain limit they'll also charge you MORE for watching videos online.

And they're also the only option you have for getting HIGH SPEED internet in town.

They also ran most of the DVD rental stores out of town as well.

And like you I'd probably also only watch about 15 channels if I could choose them.

@Charlton

Umm... Cinemas are going the way of the dodo because an elderly, curmudgeon on here is complaining that the sound effects in a theatre is too loud lol. I think the future is bright for cinemas, just because you may not like what's on release doesn't mean the majority will vacate cinemas because of you.

You're CONFUSED.

I'm the CURMUDGEON that complained about the SOUND being TOO LOUD (have also been doing that for several DECADES now including back when one still a teenager and wasn't so ELDERLY at the time).

But MOVIE NAZI is the one who said THEY THINK the Cinemas will go the way of the DODO.

So that remark had NOTHING to do with me the "Complaining CURMUDGEON".

Also found this article that explains how the OLD FASHIONED UHF ATENNA still works:

http://www.dennysantennaservice.com/1373792.html

Still can't find a photo of one of them though.

Anyone else out there remember UHF TV???

Yep, whether you said it or Ronald McDonald said it, it is still the stupidest thing I've ever heard who goes to a cinema if you have sensitive hearing...

@Charlton said:

Yep, whether you said it or Ronald McDonald said it, it is still the stupidest thing I've ever heard who goes to a cinema if you have sensitive hearing...

Uh, film fans? Surely you can see the appeal of watching a film on the big screen no? Would you miss the chance to see your favorite band live because you have "sensitive hearing" ? I doubt it.

Besides your comment about elderly complaining about it being too loud is actually contradictory to my experience. Most old people I know have the damn volume up way too much on account they can't hear for shit.

@movie_nazi said:

@Charlton said:

Yep, whether you said it or Ronald McDonald said it, it is still the stupidest thing I've ever heard who goes to a cinema if you have sensitive hearing...

Uh, film fans? Surely you can see the appeal of watching a film on the big screen no? Would you miss the chance to see your favorite band live because you have "sensitive hearing" ? I doubt it.

Besides your comment about elderly complaining about it being too loud is actually contradictory to my experience. Most old people I know have the damn volume up way too much on account they can't hear for shit.

I said sensitive hearing I never mentioned age.

@Invidia said:

MN:

What determines if you live in a MAJOR METRO area?

If it's population, we're still under the 100,000 TOTAL.

I thought you lived in Houston nearby it. Remember you mentioning flooding with HARVEY.

So it's most likely a case where they play the SOUND TOO DAMN LOUD (maybe so others can also hear what's being said while inconsiderate others sitting next to or near them keep talking during the film)???

That is a big reason why. Also inconsiderate people who bring newborns and babies to adult films. Too bad you can't turn on the CCs instead.

The Last time I went they also didn't need to tell you to turn off cell phone (which also indicates how long ago it was that I went to see a flim).

Please tell me you are joking cuz if so that is too damn funny. They have been having that cell phone message for YEARS. Its almost to the point where I CAN'T remember when they didnt have it. Pre-2006 thereabouts.

I'm currently trying to get every film noir movie Netflix has in their collection but was surprised to find out that you cannot get The Lady From Shanghai on DVD. Not a great film but still want it.

You know since you showed me that link for The Woman in the Window I have found out that you can find really old movies in their entirety on you tube. Currently watching this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwDa4MI2iF4

I love old movies and old movie stars. I get it when the old timers say "Their ain't no REAL stars anymore."

Just makes me want to buy the Blu-ray that much more. Movies that take big swings like this, especially ones as awesome as this, need all the suppprot it can get...

Umm... Cinemas are going the way of the dodo because an elderly, curmudgeon on here is complaining that the sound effects in a theatre is too loud lol. I think the future is bright for cinemas, just because you may not like what's on release doesn't mean the majority will vacate cinemas because of you.

It’s hard to really say, 2017 was a prettt damn good year for movies but attendance seems to be down. I think audiences were just so disappointed the last couple years that they shyed away hopefully the trend of enjoyable movies continues and audiences return...