i would like to get a sense of the general consensus regarding what happened to cap and peggy after cap put the stones back?
(because frankly i can't make sense of it)
a) he was peggy's husband all along, was also the father of her children and she hid it from him?
b) cap went back in time, met with peggy, she broke up with the man she fell for at the end of agent carter?
c) when cap went back in time there was an alternate time line created (is loki in an alternate time line now, where he has the tesseract?) where peggy did not move on and they got married?
d) something else?
would cap have been in a position to stop bucky from becoming the winter solder?
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Reply by Midi-chlorian_Count
on May 10, 2019 at 10:10 AM
See this is why it's great they put time-travel in this film. People will be discussing whether any of it makes any sense for years 😆
Reply by autoexec.batman
on May 10, 2019 at 1:57 PM
Stupid people will, yes.
Reply by Midi-chlorian_Count
on May 10, 2019 at 2:57 PM
... including both the writers and directors of this film it would seem!
Reply by tivep
on June 14, 2019 at 7:22 AM
Steve went back to 1940s, and resulted in an alternate timeline, after he went into the ice and married Peggy and lived with her till she died. Then came back to the Original timeline.
Reply by Midi-chlorian_Count
on June 14, 2019 at 10:49 AM
Why did Cap abandon his kids, grandchildren and friends in this alternate timeline just to return to give his shield to that falcon dude? 🤔
Were they "special friends" like Sam and Frodo? Or is vibranium no more?
Reply by tivep
on June 14, 2019 at 10:59 AM
May be he didn't have kids. Also, if he did, he didn't really abandon them .. He was pushing a hundred.. He'd spent his lifetime with them .. Nothing stops him from heading back as such. I'd imagine he would return to say that nothing went wrong to the people from his own timeline ..
Reply by autoexec.batman
on June 14, 2019 at 12:22 PM
"Pushing 100" is an understatement. By my count, depending on exactly what tine he went back to be with Peggy he could be as old as 181.
Reply by poit57
on June 14, 2019 at 2:09 PM
Does that include when he was frozen from 1945-2011 and not actually aging?
Reply by autoexec.batman
on June 14, 2019 at 2:22 PM
Yes, he was born in 1918, so by 2023, he would be 105, if he went back and far as 1945 and lived the years from 1945-20162 when Peggy died, that is another 71 years, which makes him at least 176.
Reply by MidnightBlues
on September 21, 2019 at 12:50 AM
You probably already figured out what's supposed to have happened, but you're my husband's other wife and I really had to chime in. :) Apparently, the confusion goes on and not even the writers and directors agree on what's supposed to have happened. The Russos say it's an alternate timeline, the writers say it isn't. The writers wrote it, so they should know better and, if one pays close attention to what the Ancient One says in the film, it's taking the stones out of their rightful time/place that creates alternate timelines. So, when Steve puts them back in place, he can only travel along his own timeline from then on, not create alternate ones.
So, as for your questions:
a) Yes.
b) Also possible. He went back to 1948. Why exactly that year? No idea.
c) According to the Russos, also yes. Except they got what the writers meant wrong. Loki is in an alternate timeline which was created by going back in time and changing stuff while the stones were out of their place. Those timelines apparently keep on existing after the stones are put back.
d) Nope. Also no. Couldn't save him either after he was transformed. And that's one of the reasons why that seemingly rosy ending is horrible. Steve went back, lived quietly at home and did absolutely nothing for anyone or anything again, including Bucky. That's either because he wouldn't (that's what Markus and McFeely are saying) or he couldn't, since no matter what he did or didn't do, everything would happen just like it did and like we've been watching in the movies. Bucky would never be saved before 2012 like we saw in TWS and HYDRA would always take control of the very SHIELD Peggy had worked so hard to create. And they claim it's a happy ending!
Don't take my word for it, here's the interview where the writers say it:
https://www.fandango.com/movie-news/exclusive-interview-the-avengers-endgame-writers-break-down-the-biggest-moments-in-the-movie-spoilers-753736