Hella diverse

@OddRob said:

I only counted two white guys and they booth seem to be minor roles.

How Odd. You also haven't seen the movie. Maybe check the IMDB cast credits for some detail.

@OddRob said:

I want more diversity.

Why?

@OddRob said:

and I want the main character to be white and represent me.

Why? Are you from Wakanda?

@OddRob said:

I also want The Dora Milaje to have men and trans people in it because its sexist if we dont have that.

Why is it sexist if men and trans people aren't in the Dora Milaje? Is there some historical representation that you know of that is the norm for the Dora Milaje?

@OddRob said:

....see how fucking stupid that sounds.

If you're asking the gentle reader of your posting how stupid you sound I think you know the answer to that rhetorical question.

@OddRob said:

God I hate sjws that just cant let the art be the fucking art it is supposed to be without a fit.

Oh, so that is the crux of your rant. Your perspective of what is or isn't art has some how been offended. No offense intended but you need to put a little more thought into your rant. Add some statistics that might back-up or refute your positions. Maybe a personal anecdote or experience besides hate sjws. Just a suggestion.

I think you missed the whole point of my post. I was mocking the SJWs that complain about everything. You cant have an all white cast, you cant gender bend unless its male to female, and you cant change races unless its white to minority. Im sure you can find plenty of statistics out there of the hypocrisy that SJWs are known for. I think the post might have gone over your head. Its ok, you can still act like a fucking asshole.

The problem with diversity is that it seems to be getting shoved down peoples throats at an alarm rate. And people are getting sick of it. A perfect example is Marvel comics. Sales are dropping at a crazy rate because they decided to gender/race bend a bunch of characters. Many fans are obviously not to happy about this. And instead of taking responsibility they just blame the readers. And dont even get me started on Hollywood and the white knighting they are trying to do. Which we all know is BS. All they care about is money and having sex with young actors.

@OddRob said:

I think you missed the whole point of my post. I was mocking the SJWs that complain about everything.

Nope. I didn't miss any attempted mockery of SJW's in your post. I just surmised that it lacked any real, critical statements besides hate of something or someone else.

@OddRob said:

You cant have an all white cast, you cant gender bend unless its male to female,

Sure you can. There are plenty of movies, TV shows, theater plays, musical acts, neighborhoods, places of worship that are all-white. And seeing how men haven't ever been excluded, disregarded, stepped over, or ignored in any of those artistic endeavors why would a man want to tell a story about women where the man replaced the women. Oh wait even that has happened on TV, in the movies, etc. Charlie Chaplin did it, Arsenio Hall did it, Robin Williams did it, The Crying Game, hope I didn't spoil the ending, Jerry Lewis did it, Divine did it, Ru Paul, Eddie Murphy, Tyler Perry *way too many male black actors played women , Flip Wilson.... my fingers are tired....

Or do you think that EVERY movie that is being made someone is complaining, bellyaching or boycotting?? I guess we all see different things but I just don't see it. Does your rant only apply to Hollywood movies?

@OddRob said: and you cant change races unless its white to minority.

Hmmm. I seem to remember John Wayne playing Asian? White actors playing minorities had/has been going on for years. But you might not be that old or even an American that might be familiar with Hollywood to have noticed. It's okay if you missed that little aspect of filmmaking. On top of that whole movies have been re-imagined with only whites. Seven Samurai white-morphed into the Magnificent Seven. I didn't know that until I was introduced to the Seven Samurai after already having seen the magnificent Seven and then of course there was the race-bender (your term) version with Denzel Washington. let's not get started with THAT version!!

@OddRob said: Im sure you can find plenty of statistics out there of the hypocrisy that SJWs are known for.

Sadly no. I haven't been scouring the interwebs for the so-called hypocrisy of SJW's. On a scale of 1-100 of things that someone might worry about in the entertainment field for me it is a negative 10. The industry is too large and really could be more reflective of the general population, audience and talents of whole swathes of cultures and personalities.

@OddRob said: I think the post might have gone over your head.

"Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast, and I would catch it. " <== Drax of course.

@OddRob said: Its ok, you can still act like a fucking asshole.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Why so angry? Conversation makes you nervous so you lash out?

"Nope. I didn't miss any attempted mockery of SJW's in your post. I just surmised that it lacked any real, critical statements besides hate of something or someone else."

Real or critical statements? Its rant about the hypocrisy that is SJW Hollywood now. You know the same people that 'fight' for equal rights for females but yet bring them to the 'casting coach' to get famous, yeah the same people. Have you ever seen any SJW videos? To busy watching the young turks and crying over Trump being president?

"Sure you can. There are plenty of movies, TV shows, theater plays, musical acts, neighborhoods, places of worship that are all-white. 😂 And seeing how men haven't ever been excluded, disregarded, stepped over, or ignored in any of those artistic endeavors why would a man want to tell a story about women where the man replaced the women. Oh wait even that has happened on TV, in the movies, etc. Charlie Chaplin did it, Arsenio Hall did it, Robin Williams did it, The Crying Game, hope I didn't spoil the ending, Jerry Lewis did it, Divine did it, Ru Paul, Eddie Murphy, Tyler Perry *way too many male black actors played women, Flip Wilson.... my fingers are tired....

Or do you think that EVERY movie that is being made someone is complaining, bellyaching or boycotting?? I guess we all see different things but I just don't see it. Does your rant only apply to Hollywood movies?"

So men cant be excluded, disregarded, stepped over, or ignored? This statement just shows how ignorant and bias you are when it comes to this subject. My point was that everyone complains, but SJWs only do it when it suits them, not the other way around. I personally support all race/gender bending. Because its the creators right to tell the story the way they see fit. But what I dont support is a double standard.

"Hmmm. I seem to remember John Wayne playing Asian? White actors playing minorities had/has been going on for years. But you might not be that old or even an American that might be familiar with Hollywood to have noticed. It's okay if you missed that little aspect of filmmaking. On top of that whole movies have been re-imagined with only whites. Seven Samurai white-morphed into the Magnificent Seven. I didn't know that until I was introduced to the Seven Samurai after already having seen the magnificent Seven and then of course there was the race-bender (your term) version with Denzel Washington. let's not get started with THAT version!!"

I know Hollywood has been doing it for years, and in a very stereotypical way usually. But that was in the past, like whites drink from this fountain and blacks drink from the other past. Never seen the original Magnificent Seven, but I did see the remake, it was ok. Zero issues with the race bending. And of course Ive seen Seven Samurai that its based on. I enjoy Asian cinema, hell I think S Korea is probably the best when it comes to films now a days. But Hollywood just keeps making Transformers films! Quick question, did you support the new Ghost in the Shell with Johansson? People were in a up roar because the lead was changed from Asian to white. But the same people were silent for other Anime adaptions like Attack on Titan or Fullmetal Alchemist, changing the characters from white to Asian. Thats the kind of stuff that I hate, and thats the kind of stuff SJWs are known for. A more recent example of it is the new Hellboy film. They changed an Irish woman to a black one, silent. They changed a Asian man to a white guy and people lost it. Basically forcing the actor to quite the role. See the hypocrisy?

"Sadly no. I haven't been scouring the interwebs for the so-called hypocrisy of SJW's. On a scale of 1-100 of things that someone might worry about in the entertainment field for me it is a negative 10. The industry is too large and really could be more reflective of the general population, audience and talents of whole swathes of cultures and personalities."

See I agree with you here. Hollywood needs to be more reflective of the general population. But when you start to change things around just to appeal to a certain type of person/demographic ,when we all know that Hollywood dosent give a shit about women or minorities, thats when I start to have an issue. Not necessarily because they are changing something up but why they are doing it.

""Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast, and I would catch it. " <== Drax of course."

"Tsk, tsk, tsk. Why so angry? Conversation makes you nervous so you lash out?"

Nah conversations dont make me nervous, just assholes like you get on my nervous sometimes. Im sure the more we talk the more we would understand each others point of view...course Ill still think you are an asshole and you'll think im a dick.

@rgreen7313 said:

@OddRob said:

I think you missed the whole point of my post. I was mocking the SJWs that complain about everything.

Nope. I didn't miss any attempted mockery of SJW's in your post. I just surmised that it lacked any real, critical statements besides hate of something or someone else.

@OddRob said:

You cant have an all white cast, you cant gender bend unless its male to female,

Sure you can. There are plenty of movies, TV shows, theater plays, musical acts, neighborhoods, places of worship that are all-white. And seeing how men haven't ever been excluded, disregarded, stepped over, or ignored in any of those artistic endeavors why would a man want to tell a story about women where the man replaced the women. Oh wait even that has happened on TV, in the movies, etc. Charlie Chaplin did it, Arsenio Hall did it, Robin Williams did it, The Crying Game, hope I didn't spoil the ending, Jerry Lewis did it, Divine did it, Ru Paul, Eddie Murphy, Tyler Perry *way too many male black actors played women , Flip Wilson.... my fingers are tired....

Or do you think that EVERY movie that is being made someone is complaining, bellyaching or boycotting?? I guess we all see different things but I just don't see it. Does your rant only apply to Hollywood movies?

@OddRob said: and you cant change races unless its white to minority.

Hmmm. I seem to remember John Wayne playing Asian? White actors playing minorities had/has been going on for years. But you might not be that old or even an American that might be familiar with Hollywood to have noticed. It's okay if you missed that little aspect of filmmaking. On top of that whole movies have been re-imagined with only whites. Seven Samurai white-morphed into the Magnificent Seven. I didn't know that until I was introduced to the Seven Samurai after already having seen the magnificent Seven and then of course there was the race-bender (your term) version with Denzel Washington. let's not get started with THAT version!!

@OddRob said: Im sure you can find plenty of statistics out there of the hypocrisy that SJWs are known for.

Sadly no. I haven't been scouring the interwebs for the so-called hypocrisy of SJW's. On a scale of 1-100 of things that someone might worry about in the entertainment field for me it is a negative 10. The industry is too large and really could be more reflective of the general population, audience and talents of whole swathes of cultures and personalities.

@OddRob said: I think the post might have gone over your head.

"Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast, and I would catch it. " <== Drax of course.

@OddRob said: Its ok, you can still act like a fucking asshole.

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Why so angry? Conversation makes you nervous so you lash out?

Omg it was just a joke. Relax.

@rarebreed said:

Omg it was just a joke. Relax.

I'm very much relaxed. Now you get to tell me just where was the joke in @OddRob's post. Was there a punch line, a clever twist, a bit of sardonic humor perhaps? Did you even laugh, snortle, chuckle, guffaw or at least a little teehee or a giggle?

Maybe you don't understand humor.... Curious....

More of a poke at the SJWs.

@rgreen7313 said:

@rarebreed said:

Omg it was just a joke. Relax.

I'm very much relaxed. Now you get to tell me just where was the joke in @OddRob's post. Was there a punch line, a clever twist, a bit of sardonic humor perhaps? Did you even laugh, snortle, chuckle, guffaw or at least a little teehee or a giggle?

Maybe you don't understand humor.... Curious....

No you're definitely not relaxed. Not at all.

@rarebreed said:

No you're definitely not relaxed. Not at all.

Interesting. Words mean whatever you want them to mean? That's deliciously obtuse of you but not unexpected.

Do you know that the language used in this movie by those from Wakanda was created just for this movie? Tons of credit has to go to those making such an immersive experience for their intended audience. TMDB is also adding a trivia section to this forum which I applaud and hopefully little items like that would be added to that section.

@OddRob said:

More of a poke at the SJWs.

A Poke ? Yes. A Joke ? No. I still haven't been able to commiserate with you on your hate for SJW's and whatever it is that they are doing that has offended your sensibilities so much that you needed to start a rant about diversity and to Poke your angst at them?

I'm hoping that Black Panther is a success financially, tells a great story about T'Challa, Wakanda and the MCU. For me Black Panther is a special project and Coogler has stated that this might be his most personal movie to date and he had a very personal connection with the movie which was indeed very much based on seeing imagery on paper that looked like him when he was growing up. There was that whole lack of diversity and inclusion that he had to just roll with back then and finding the Black Panther was a joy for him. Coogler's passion for the material I hope comes through with a strong story narrative of growth, revelation and maybe even sacrifice. Those would be ideas that transcend race, gender, sexuality, religion and politics.

Which is harder building something, making something or tearing something down or Poking at something?

@rgreen7313 said:

@rarebreed said:

No you're definitely not relaxed. Not at all.

Interesting. Words mean whatever you want them to mean? That's deliciously obtuse of you but not unexpected.

Do you know that the language used in this movie by those from Wakanda was created just for this movie? Tons of credit has to go to those making such an immersive experience for their intended audience. TMDB is also adding a trivia section to this forum which I applaud and hopefully little items like that would be added to that section.

You're still acting like a jerk. Chill out.

@rarebreed said:

@rgreen7313 said:

@rarebreed said:

No you're definitely not relaxed. Not at all.

Interesting. Words mean whatever you want them to mean? That's deliciously obtuse of you but not unexpected.

Do you know that the language used in this movie by those from Wakanda was created just for this movie? Tons of credit has to go to those making such an immersive experience for their intended audience. TMDB is also adding a trivia section to this forum which I applaud and hopefully little items like that would be added to that section.

You're still acting like a jerk. Chill out.

Jerk:

a :an annoyingly stupid or foolish person was acting like a jerk

b :an unlikable person; especially :one who is cruel, rude, or small-minded a selfish jerk

You're quit fond of name calling and characterizations. Please explain how is it I am acting like a jerk? Show me how I appear to not be relaxed or that I am not Chilled Out? Provide an example for me. Please?

You seem to read with anger and hostility when all that I have done is ask @OddRob a few questions? Does asking questions make one a Jerk? I missed that definition.

Or is it that your train of thought has nothing to say about this movie? Please share with us?

@Damienracer said:

You really need to stop expanding this thread, an idiot making a crap joke online isn't the end of the world.

One of the public opinion criticisms of MCU movies is that the movies all seemed to devolve into End of the World climaxes and or followed some type of formula. I think the stakes for most of the MCU movies are more personal and intimate because each movie is about the characters. The Black Panther according to Coogler will be his most personal film todate. Additionally the diversity that is being displayed into the MCU by this film I think should be applauded.

No one said that @OddRob's post was the End of the World and it would have been beneficial if you had just added a comment on diversity, lack there of or even something about BP. I would have enjoyed reading your input.