(Spoilers)
Logan made the same controversial move that Alien 3 did - killing off everyone before the opening credits. Other than our hero, there's only one other major survivor (Xavier, Bishop) who dies in the middle of the film, and finally our hero dies in an act of self-sacrifice.
I can't forgive Alien 3 for doing this to Aliens, and consequently don't see it as canon, but I'm not as invested in the X-Men universe so I'm more willing to be forgiving, but it does seem to be something of a waste to arbitrarily kill off everyone. Didn't X-3 get unlimited hate for killing off a few major characters? Why no hate for this movie for being even more kill-ey?
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Відповідь від wonder2wonder
14 березня 2017, 10:54 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
Superhero movies have been remade and rebooted so many times, perhaps it's become accepted as a "natural" occurrence for the next generation of viewers?
Відповідь від Movie Queen41
14 березня 2017, 10:57 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
Yes, good points. X3 was hated for killing off several X-Men (in addition to being a rather poor film). I am also shocked that this movie chose yet again to kill X-Men after the happy ending of DOFP. Really surprised that more fans aren't angry about this. I was actually offended by the X-Men being killed off by their own mentor. Seems everyone else is just falling all over this film.
(But as discussed in another thread, Logan and DOFP may not be in the same time line).
Відповідь від Drooch
15 березня 2017, 6:12 НОЧІ/РАНКУ
Theory: Fox want to kill off these characters so they don't need to keep paying these A-listers. Now they can focus on these new X-kids and make cheaper 'X-men' films, or at least just focus on the McAvoy/Fassbender generation without fans clamouring for the oldies as well.
Unfortunately for them, they've now realised that audiences want more focused, intimate, R-rated superhero films as they get tired of the bloated excesses of epic mash-ups with endless blood-free CGI battles. So their attempt to kill off this character by tossing a fanboy director a modest budget and letting him get on with it has backfired, the film's a roaring success and audiences only want more Jackman & Stewart. Doh!
Відповідь від Movie Queen41
15 березня 2017, 8:14 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
Even Stewart, after Xavier died, said he's up for appearing in Deadpool and Legion as Prof. X. So much for his "death, " lol.
Wouldn't be surprised if some of the old cast popped up in other X-Men movies and TV shows.
Відповідь від Dangerous-Boy
16 березня 2017, 11:33 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
The problem started with X-3. Fox couldn't wait for Bryan singer. Singer should not have done Superman returns. They rushed everything. X-3 was the turning point. I liked Logan. Although it was sad, I'm ok how everything turned out.
My favorites are x1, x2, the wolverine, and probably this movie.
I still would like to see hugh jackman in full costume in deadpool 2.
Відповідь від pater_tenebrarum1
18 березня 2017, 11:39 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
Given that the story told in this movie is supposed happen in the future, what does it matter? Particularly in view of the fact that the X-men franchise is a complete continuity mess and that it is known since DoFP that they can change anything that happens via time travel any time they feel like it... I would say it is really a minor problem. In fact, it isn't a problem at all.
Відповідь від Movie Queen41
18 березня 2017, 11:42 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
Cable, who can time travel, will probably alter the time line of Logan at some point.
Відповідь від movie_nazi
20 березня 2017, 5:19 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
Exactly. I don't understand why people think these characters are done for. This is way in the future and the end of the line. Plenty of time for adventures to get up to this point.
Відповідь від No One On Earth
21 березня 2017, 4:14 НОЧІ/РАНКУ
The reason is because it takes place in the future. Logan isn't expected to be hanging out with the same people, and it's not surprising they're dead. They're superheroes, they get into dangerous stuff.
Відповідь від Drooch
21 березня 2017, 5:06 НОЧІ/РАНКУ
Well the suggestion is that they all suddenly perished one morning because professor X had a stroke, hardly the exciting 'dangerous stuff' you seem to be implying.
Відповідь від Drooch
21 березня 2017, 5:57 НОЧІ/РАНКУ
It does seem like an attempt by the actors and studio to forcibly shut something down, albeit in a very well-handled way.
Відповідь від No One On Earth
21 березня 2017, 5:20 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
@Drooch whatever, the point remains that it's in the future and that's why no one cares. But I do like your comment that it seems like Jackman and Mangold almost seemed like they were single handedly trying to end the X-Men franchise. I hope it does end the franchise so they can start over.
Відповідь від Movie Queen41
21 березня 2017, 8:29 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
There is some debate as to which timeline Logan actually takes place in, so it might not be the end for the X-Men. Plus Cable will probably alter the time line again: https://moviepilot.com/p/post-logan-x-men-timeline/4220996
Відповідь від wonder2wonder
21 березня 2017, 8:37 ДНЯ/ВЕЧОРА
So who will "Wolverine" be in the next movie? Original, another time line, a clone, an android or whatever else the writers can think of...?
Відповідь від Tyler-A-Arse
22 березня 2017, 4:14 НОЧІ/РАНКУ
I'd like to see X-23 take over as the new Wolverine.