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It was too funny that Javi called Kail out on putting the boys in camp all summer. She got busted trying to pretend that she had done everything! She is ridiculous. First of all, he wasn't out having a good time or incarcerated or something. He was serving his country and providing financially and providing benefits for her and his son. She sure didn't like getting called out in front of the camera. All she wants to do is be with her friends. Even her kids are second to that. Talk about someone who was not finished having a good time and ready for kids. And yet she continues to have more. And was also hilarious when he let her know that her friends come first and not her kids. And she is so delusional, she thinks he is the only one who sees it. Nope, we all see it. And just like she did Jo, she wants complete control of his son and when he sees him. That is not how it always works. And the more daddy's there are, the harder that will be. And she hates not having control. And her hitting that dash camera was insane. She is a control freak and a violent beast! She and Jenelle are clueless!!

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It was hilarious that she refused to share holidays with Javi because she "has 2 kids." ... Yeah, and ONE of them is Javi's, so work it out! If they don't come to an agreement, it will be decided for them and she's NOT going to get EVERY Christmas. She'll probably get every other one or something that resembles what Javi suggested in the first place. She just wants everyone to bend to her will. Jo was too young, but Javi's been watching and taking notes. I was proud of him this episode!

Very proud of Javi!! He sure knows how to push her buttons and I love it! Yes, that argument for having him on Christmas, because she has two kids, was so weak. She has two kids (soon to be three) by different men, because she chose that. All the dad's still have a right to see their children, even on holidays, without concern for her schedule or her having less time with the child. That is not his problem, it is hers! Jo has allowed her way too much control. Glad Javi isn't having it. She wants to control EVERYTHING and the father's to have no rights or decisions. She is in for a rude awakening when/if Javi takes her to court. And he doesn't seem to be opposed to making things hard on her, just like she wants to do to him. Good for him. And now she will have another baby daddy to contend with and work out schedules, visitations, etc. Because no way will anybody stay with her for any length of time.

I actually agree with Kailyn and think she should have both of her kids for Christmas or Christmas Eve. Christmas is a family holiday and she probably doesn't have any or a lot of her family around to spend it with.

@TheCheetahPeach said:

I actually agree with Kailyn and think she should have both of her kids for Christmas or Christmas Eve. Christmas is a family holiday and she probably doesn't have any or a lot of her family around to spend it with.

I kind of saw her point too. I think that she should be able to have both of them at the same time for at least one of those days. Not even just for her, but for the boys to be able to spend that time together.

If she truly put them in camp from 12 - 5 because she had summer classes, then I don't see that as a problem at all. Regardless of the reason Javi was gone, she did have to take care of them alone for that time frame, and her finding a way to care for them so she could continue her education is not a bad thing at all. They were both being super immature during that conversation though. Kailyn knew damn well that Javi couldn't help being gone for that amount of time and should have never thrown it in his face, just like Javi shouldn't have thrown it in Kailyn's face that she put the boys in camp to go to school. IMO the divorce thing is still really fresh for both of them so they are being immature and petty, but I think it will pass over time and they will get along just like Kail and Jo seem to get along for the most part.

@blonde_angel2008 said:

@TheCheetahPeach said:

I actually agree with Kailyn and think she should have both of her kids for Christmas or Christmas Eve. Christmas is a family holiday and she probably doesn't have any or a lot of her family around to spend it with.

I kind of saw her point too. I think that she should be able to have both of them at the same time for at least one of those days. Not even just for her, but for the boys to be able to spend that time together.

She even said "you know that Christmas is Kind of a touchy subject with me" to javi when they were fighting.

No one told her to have 3 kids by 3 different guys. The fact that she'll have to split up custody on holidays with her batch of kids is no one's fault but hers.

@xffanatic said:

No one told her to have 3 kids by 3 different guys. The fact that she'll have to split up custody on holidays with her batch of kids is no one's fault but hers.

agree 100 percent

@NopejustNope said:

@xffanatic said:

No one told her to have 3 kids by 3 different guys. The fact that she'll have to split up custody on holidays with her batch of kids is no one's fault but hers.

agree 100 percent

Absolutely. She has 2 options essentially In regard to Christmas match Javis schedule so she has neither of the boys or alternate. She doesn't get to set all the rules. It's called coparenting, and unless there is a valid investigated reason why javi shouldn't be around his son she's just gotta deal. Lots of parents do it.

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