Would it be rude if I'd ask for a TL;DR ?

Synths are androids simple

@Wolf359 said:

and how are they different from any AI, like the Doctor?

How come Elnor could knock them out? Aren't they supposed to be as solid and strong as Data?

Just chalk it up to a plot hole. Soji and her twin were easily able to dispatch teams of highly-trained Romulan assassins, so why her pacific, toga-wearing brothers and sisters were so easily manhandled by Elnor is a mystery.

Plot hole indeed. I mean how can they possibly explain that in future seasons? They were programmed that way? Dumbed down?

It doesn't make any sense.

@Invidia said:

Sure you can ask, but since one has NO CLUE WTF that's suppose to mean, it won't do very much good for you to ask.

It means Too Long Didn't Read; or Too Lazy Didn't Read, meaning provide a shorter answer.

It was a simple question. I wasn't expecting someone to write a book to answer it. But thanks anyway.

@Invidia said:

... it's also NOT A SIMPLE QUESTION to ANSWER.

In other words, you don't know. But I can't blame you, it was never explained and there were major inconsistencies, even if we assume that Soji is the most advanced model: What's her name.. could run fast, jump very high and easily beat a Romulan squad. Soji showed physical strength when she escaped that room Narek locked her in. Earlier androids like Data and Lore possessed great strength... and we're supposed to think that all the other synths are much weaker because.. ? plot hole?

Dahj and Soji are not synths they are cyborgs they have biological bodies with a positronic brain synths are entirely made of inorganic matter they are androids or robots just like Data.Synth is just short for synthetic or artificial.It really is that simple if the writers don't stick to that simple rule it's not my fault that they can't stick to the stuff they invented themselves.

@Wolf359 said: I mean how can they possibly explain that in future seasons?

Do you think that people will care, though? Most will again say, "Thank god it's more Star Trek!" What purpose would extending the stories of Soji or the synths serve in Season Two? Their arc has been resolved and the threat is neutered. Hell, the writers act like we all have such short attention spans we won't even remember S:1.

At best, since Soji is a synthetic human with additional abilities that are triggered when she's threatened, she can function as Picard's version of River Tam from Firefly. She'll spring into action with super-human powers whenever Elroy, er Legolas, er...ELNOR is busy. We're going to get more Rios holograms, a will-they-or-won't-they stormy romance between Raffi and Seven, and Jurati will cry about something. Oh, and Picard will be there when they need some exposition.

Frankly, I couldn't care less what happens to the rest of the synths; they were wooden, cardboard characters dressed like Hare Krishna acolytes. My bet is that the synths won't be explored any further, but S:2 will be all about a new threat from...wait for it...THE KLINGONS! We need more memberberries with Worf and Geordi.

They used to call them Android. But i guess Google would sue if they used that word.

@AlienFanatic said:

@Wolf359 said: I mean how can they possibly explain that in future seasons?

Do you think that people will care, though?

Tbh, I don't know if I will. I think the producers and writers are neither capable nor willing to deliver good Trek. Looking at the outcome it seems they've different goals.

Most will again say, "Thank god it's more Star Trek!" What purpose would extending the stories of Soji or the synths serve in Season Two? Their arc has been resolved and the threat is neutered. Hell, the writers act like we all have such short attention spans we won't even remember S:1.

At best, since Soji is a synthetic human with additional abilities that are triggered when she's threatened, she can function as Picard's version of River Tam from Firefly.

I'd like to see what Picard's additional capabilities will be, what he's capable of when he's activated.

She'll spring into action with super-human powers whenever Elroy, er Legolas, er...ELNOR is busy. We're going to get more Rios holograms, a will-they-or-won't-they stormy romance between Raffi and Seven, and Jurati will cry about something. Oh, and Picard will be there when they need some exposition.

Frankly, I couldn't care less what happens to the rest of the synths; they were wooden, cardboard characters dressed like Hare Krishna acolytes. My bet is that the synths won't be explored any further, but S:2 will be all about a new threat from...wait for it...THE KLINGONS! We need more memberberries with Worf and Geordi.

Agreed. I just hope they don't turn Worf or Geordi into females or synths or both lol

Depicting female superiority is so much more important nowadays than delivering good Trek.

@Invidia said:

I'd like to see what Picard's additional capabilities will be, what he's capable of when he's activated.

There's no indication PICARD would be able to ACTIVATE like SOJI because she had FAKE MEMORIES PLANTED into her whereas PICARD still has REAL MEMORIES in him.

So chances are probably also pretty good PICARD is just whoever he was when he was still human and hasn't had any other enhancements added on to him.

I doubt that it has anything to do with fake memories. It's just another subroutine or whatever that kicks in when the plot needs it.

Also, Soji and Picard aren't made out of flesh and blood, they're still androids.. unless you're capable of punching a hole into the floor with your bare hands.

@Invidia said:

Since HUMANS have also lifted up AUTOMOBILES off of LOVED ONES after an accident happens and the car's on fire, humans are also capable of doing SUPER HUMAN things sometimes.

It's not like a little girl can suddenly lift a car or anything like that. You still have to be pretty robust and strong to lift a car, even if you go 110%. But yes, there was a docu on NatGeo about people going 110%.

And the FLOOR was also not the same as a NORMAL floor because that room was also for ceremonial meetings and that area of it that she breaks through wasn't a thick as other areas where one normally walks around.

It was a wooden floor and looked pretty solid. She punched it and it broke. I doubt it was because she 'went 110%'. We're supposed to believe she has super-human capabilities. Just look at what Daj could do.

Anyhow this CLIP will also give you an idea of what MIGHT happen to PICARD if the TRANSFER PROCESS stops working.

Yes, but different writers, different franchise. That doesn't count.

So we'll just have to wait to see what happens.

Nah, I don't even care anymore. Just watch the latest Midnight's Edge video, it speaks volumes :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsgnyxpzlfY

@Wolf359 said:

@Invidia said:

Sure you can ask, but since one has NO CLUE WTF that's suppose to mean, it won't do very much good for you to ask.

It means Too Long Didn't Read; or Too Lazy Didn't Read, meaning provide a shorter answer.

LMAO Invidia not using verbal diarrhea lol not going to happen haha

@Invidia said:

In the VIDEO clips I've seen it didn't look very SOLID and it also didn't look like it was WOODEN.

https://youtu.be/gRKaL-x6E1E?t=16

But I don't watch any of those ANTI NEW TREK VIDEOS, because the NERDY MORONIC DUDE who makes them also use to LIKE PICARD until he realized he could MAKE MORE MONEY by BASHING and ATTACKING the show (which you can also see is the MAIN REASON for his BAD MOUTHING it due to the way he also let's you see what others in his FAN BASE are saying about the show as he produces his VIDEOS).

Don't know anything about the dude, tbh, but I concur with most of what he says in this video. But I watch Robservations and Nerdrotic regularly, and I totally agree (edit:) most of the time with what they have to say about nu-trek.

You somehow take everything that's thrown at you by the writers and producers of nu-trek and defend it to the end. That's exactly the opposite of what they do.

Defending that crap is beyond me. Why "Picard", btw? Why not a new show with Picard as a character in it? It seems to me, they got the job but don't know what to do with it. Stewart didn't know about the demise of Picard until shooting day. But whatever.

I really have a hard time finding things, scenes, etc. that I really like. Seeing Picard, Riker, Troi, etc. again was the best part I guess. Ah yes, the score is great! Really, it's great. One of the best scores in ST, right after Voyager's theme.

But I'm curious; do us a favor and criticize ST:Picard, would you?

So when it's OBVIOUS that both the MORONIC GUY and the FAKE RED HEAD GIRL both have AGENDAS for saying what they say (the FAKE RED HEAD is basically also an ATTENTION WHORE), the LAST THING one wants to do is watch still more VIDEOS by NON PROS like the ones they've made.

Therefore one will STICK to READING the PROFESSIONAL REVIEWS that have been WRITTEN by PROFESSIONAL JOURNALIST who work for other WELL KNOWN places (like for the NEW YORK TIMES or NEWSWEEK or VARIEITY etc.) instead of paying attention to this other FAKE STUFF that gets produced by NON PROFESSIONALS who have other AGENDAS for doing what they do.

I couldn't disagree more; first of all, of course, they want to make money, who doesn't? Second, I prefer listening to independent channels over biased channels/reviewers who aren't capable of (or allowed to) seeing and criticizing a product for what it is. Professional reviews? Professional journalists? There's no such thing. It may differ depending on who they work for, but they all have agendas. They have to if they want to receive future paychecks. "You don't shit where you eat."

And one has also heard NEX telling us the SAME kind of STUFF over and over again, because he's also FOND of REGURGITATING back up again whatever he hears whenever he listens to ANTI TREK PROPAGANDA (even though one also keeps telling him that one has NO INTEREST whatsoever in what they have to say about what goes on BEHIND the SCENES in regards to how the show is PRODUCED).

Considering what's going on in the world, Star Trek was, how did Jonathan Frakes put it back in the day; "It's the universe everybody wants to live in". It was a great place to escape the real world. Optimistic, bright, etc. That was Roddenberry's "message" and everybody liked it.

Seeing what they did to Trek, no one should wonder why people, esp. older fans, start criticizing the producers and writers of this.. crap.

Because as long as the SHOW is ENTERTAINING and INTERESTING enough, I'm happy.

And imo, the NEW TREK SHOWS have also fit into both of those CATEGORIES.

You love it, that's fine. But consider this; 10 years from now someone takes over your beloved franchise and turns it into crap, then we talk again lol.

Btw, the more I think about it; turning something as solid and consistent as ST (5 decades!) into crap is quite an accomplishment. They should receive a special achievement reward. lol I mean can't they do both? produce good Trek and fulfill their agenda, and everybody's happy? Unless their agenda is producing crap then .. I don't know.