محادثة The Mandalorian

Finally we get some good Star Wars. Good writing, good characters, looks great, no stupid political messages, not a redo of previously existing material, just a dude with a gun protecting a baby. Adapting a western to a space setting was genius.

Still not paying to see the new movie though.

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Man with a gun protecting child... no political messages... oh, wait.

@cinephilia said:

Man with a gun protecting child... no political messages... oh, wait.

I don't get your post. How's a guy protecting a child from being murdered political? He's a bounty hunter so of course he has a gun, he can't protect a kid from getting shot in the face by using harsh language and nothing else.

I'm probably not so good at English, I just want to say that Star Wars was about politics from the start and this is part of success.

Protection of the "weak", ideology of war, mercenaries, soldiers, arms handling, etc. — political topics for every human being. Overall political message may not be from XXI, but it is.

Back to movie — too early to make statements. The reasons are still not clear. May Yoda-baby be useful to all Mandalorians and their «Empire»? Would Mando protect an ordinary baby, not a very expensive aim, super precious and potentially most powerful weapon?

@cinephilia said:

I'm probably not so good at English, I just want to say that Star Wars was about politics from the start and this is part of success.

Protection of the "weak", ideology of war, mercenaries, soldiers, arms handling, etc. — political topics for every human being. Overall political message may not be from XXI, but it is.

I see what you mean, but I wouldn't exactly consider those exclusively political topics. Most stories have a hero and a villain. Even something like Moby Dick can be seen as a political commentary on whaling, but the author wasn't shoving that view down our throats or beating us over the head with it, it was just about a guy hunting a whale.

In this case I see a man who is not invincible and with a strong moral code protecting a baby from being murdered as something that everyone can get behind regardless of your political beliefs.

@cinephilia said:

I'm probably not so good at English, I just want to say that Star Wars was about politics from the start and this is part of success.

Protection of the "weak", ideology of war, mercenaries, soldiers, arms handling, etc. — political topics for every human being. Overall political message may not be from XXI, but it is.

Back to movie — too early to make statements. The reasons are still not clear. May Yoda-baby be useful to all Mandalorians and their «Empire»? Would Mando protect an ordinary baby, not a very expensive aim, super precious and potentially most powerful weapon?

Have to disagree. Lucas said at one point that in RotJ, the Ewoks represented the Vietnamese and the Empire the USA. I would not say this view of political expression is what made RotJ successful, in fact I think a lot of people who heard this probably thought "Yeah whatever, George, your little teddy bears can be whatever you want, I'm just watching it for the cool action and awesome effects." And as for the politics in the Disney era films, well ... yeah. No. If KK wants The Mandalorian to remain successful, she'd be wise to keep her politics out of it.

@cinephilia said:

Man with a gun protecting child... no political messages... oh, wait.

I think Ask was more talking about current politics/PC culture running amok today in Hollywood. Which I agree with, so far this seems like a straight up space western and a heroes journey type of show, which is fine with me. I just hope with the current state of SW, moving forward they will consider laying of all the PC/political shit.

@cswood said:

@cinephilia said:

Man with a gun protecting child... no political messages... oh, wait.

I don't get your post. How's a guy protecting a child from being murdered political? He's a bounty hunter so of course he has a gun, he can't protect a kid from getting shot in the face by using harsh language and nothing else.

laughing

After 8 episodes I'd like to say, that Mandalorian is more "Firefly" than "Star Wars" (but let's wait for the next season).

@cinephilia said:

After 8 episodes I'd like to say, that Mandalorian is more "Firefly" than "Star Wars" (but let's wait for the next season).

Never saw "Firefly".

But, when it comes to Mando, I'm thinking a mixture of "Alex Murphy", "Hans Solo," and "Robert McCall".

When it comes to the show, itself, if it wasn’t for foreknowledge, my first thought wouldn't be "Star Wars" either. More along the lines of "The Transporter" with a dash of "Seven Samurai/The Magnificent Seven" thrown in.

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