As indicated in this previous content report, this was originally broadcasted as one single series.

The link you provided which shows an archived promotional collection of two shows titled "Cunk on...". Under this collection, there are episodes which now correctly hyperlink to episodes from their respective shows on iPlayer. For instance, "Episode 1" now correctly links to "Cunk on Britain", while "In the Beginnings" will take you to "Cunk on Earth".

I understand you take issue with iPlayer being used as a source - a bit hypocritical considering they are the only* source for "Cunk on..." as a single series, but no worries, the BBC and other outlets also reported on the new shows below:

• https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/proginfo/2022/38/cunk-on-earth
• https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/mediapacks/cunk-on-life
• https://rts.org.uk/article/philomena-cunk-return-bbc-two-new-series-cunk-earth

Another source, which accurately lists television schedules as they were presented in the magazines and over Freestat broadcast, shows a listing for "Cunk on Britain" at 9pm on the 3rd of April 2018: https://tv24.co.uk/tv/2018-04-03

It should be noted that the inaccuracies in the listing here are causing downstream issues in other platform's datasets and TMDB is the only platform which insists on splitting the shows.

Some more notes:

1. The host calls the show "Cunk on Britain" during the intro.
2. The title card reads "Cunk on Britain" with no ellipses.
3. In original TV rips, the end of episode narrator refers to the show as "Cunk on Britain" when mentioning the "broadcast of the final episode".

In summary, I think that maintaining the merged series' as they are now is an insult to the mini-series format, as well as an insult to archival as a whole. This is comparable to "Doctor Who" having three entries on this site - technically correct, but wouldn't it be nice if there was only one? :-)

* I found only one other reference to "Cunk on..." here, however they cite another source, which does not reference "Cunk on..." at all. I have contacted the Editor of the RadioTimes requesting access to the now private YouTube video which hosts the full interview.

We use, as required by our rules when it is available, the main site of the BBC which is the original broadcaster.

Unfortunately the BBC did not appear to make a press release article for Cunk on Britain, however, in addition to the many articles I provided above, there are pages mentioning "Cunk on Britain" on the BBC's website which predate the "Cunk on..." page.

The page you linked actually used to be called Cunk on Earth too...

Your link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240209155514/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001cbmw/episodes/guide

Archive 2 years prior: https://web.archive.org/web/20220919043146/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001cbmw

I also note that the Cunk on... page used to be correctly named "Cunk on Britain": https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/79063-cunk-on/changes?page=4

Per your rules: "When seasons are re-organized, for example after a network change, (e.g. American Dad, Futurama), we do not re-arranged the aired seasons/episodes. The new season is simply added as the next season."

So, this page should be reverted to it's original form, with a new page created for "Cunk on Earth".

And don't worry love, your rules also say that everyone makes mistakes.

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/79063-cunk-on/discuss/6414b6bfe9c0dc00a40ad171

Note : iPlayer isn't an official source. Series aren't always listed there as they were originally broadcasted.

@themoviedbenjoyer said:

however, in addition to the many articles I provided above, there are pages mentioning "Cunk on Britain" on the BBC's website which predate the "Cunk on..." page.

This is perfectly normal as "Cunk of Britain" was broadcasted 4 years before "Cunk on Earth".

The page you linked actually used to be called Cunk on Earth too...

Your link: https://web.archive.org/web/20240209155514/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001cbmw/episodes/guide

Archive 2 years prior: https://web.archive.org/web/20220919043146/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001cbmw

This page was created under that title and appear on webarchive with that title on the archives from September 19 and September 20, 2022.

The page was already renamed to "Cunk on..." on the archive from September 27, 2022 during the broadcast of "Cunk on Earth", merging the 2 series in one at the same time.

As per our rules, "If the title of a TV show changes during its initial broadcast, we update the original title and add the previous title as an alternative title:" So, the show should be named "Cunk on..."

I also note that the Cunk on... page used to be correctly named "Cunk on Britain": https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/79063-cunk-on/changes?page=4

That page was created under the title "Cunk on Britain" in 2018 when only "Cunk on Britain" did exist. It was renamed in September 2022 due to the above changes by the BBC.

Per your rules: "When seasons are re-organized, for example after a network change, (e.g. American Dad, Futurama), we do not re-arranged the aired seasons/episodes. The new season is simply added as the next season."

This rule has nothing to do with this case. No season have been split in multiple seasons and no separate seasons have been merged in a bigger season.

So, this page should be reverted to it's original form, with a new page created for "Cunk on Earth".

No. We need to follow what the BBC has done at the time of the original broadcast.

@themoviedbenjoyer said:

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/79063-cunk-on/discuss/6414b6bfe9c0dc00a40ad171

Note : iPlayer isn't an official source. Series aren't always listed there as they were originally broadcasted.

Here, we are not talking about iPlayer, but pages from the main BBC site. The iPlayer page for this show is here and wasn't take in account. You are the only one talking about iPlayer in this discussion.

You are regurgitating the same non-sense across 7 threads where no one agrees with your position. iPlayer and the BBC website share content, the IDs are both m001cbmw, and as such, the content is synced and of equal value. The shows are distinct from each other, they were aired far apart, the merged listing on iPlayer and the BBC website was clearly a temporary promotion to encourage uptake of the original series.

No. We need to follow what the BBC has done at the time of the original broadcast.

I have provided several sources which corroborate the facts stated by the 6 preceding threads as well as my own, that the original broadcast and intentions are two separate shows titled "Cunk on Britain" and "Cunk on Earth".

You'll need no longer have to close these threads thrice yearly as soon as you rectify the issue.

I think you'll need to reset the reviews of "Cunk on..." after renaming it to Cunk on Britain, or at least delete them dating back to when it was last correct. I've done the leg work in creating a correct entry for Cunk on Earth but have some more work to do, thought I'd hold off before completing it in case your powers that be decided to delete it... https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/281385-cunk-on-earth

As indicated, we need to follow the original broadcast by the BBC. There will be no change here.

Your duplicate series has already been removed.

Still not seeing any proof that the original broadcast was not two separate miniseries and the archived links you've provided went live post-broadcast, and have since been corrected.

The series dropped all at once on Netflix on 20/09/2022 as "Cunk on Earth", at the time, it was listed as "Cunk on Earth" on both the BBC and iPlayer websites, as well as on Netflix.

As mentioned previously, iPlayer and the BBC guide site both reference the same database internally and share IDs for all their programmes. Linked is proof that episode 2 of Cunk on Earth aired as "Series 1".

I've also found another official source which presents it as two separate shows: Cunk on Britain on EIDR and Cunk on Earth on EIDR. Submissions on this site are limited to production companies and other industry officials - if they wanted it to be a second season, they would have entered it on here as such.

It is not appropriate to use fan art on the "Cunk on..." page as there is in fact official artwork for each of the shows individually. The BBC has never produced any "Cunk on..." artwork and the description on TMDB is also inaccurate.

I have provided plenty of links which prove the original broadcast was in fact "Series 1" of "Cunk on Earth". If, with the facts presented, you continue to refute this, I don't think you should be in any position to make this decision and I would kindly ask that you would request a site administrator weigh in on this discussion.

Forgot to include:

"Series 1, Ep. 5/5 - War(s) Of The World(s)?": https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/proginfo/2022/42/cunk-on-earth

This is a series produced by British companies which is broadcasted in the United Kingdom by the BBC. Netflix is only the broadcaster outside the United Kingdom and, as such, doesn't count.

As per our rules, what was planned, advertised, published, ... before the broadcast is irrelevant. The only relevant data are the original broadcast done by the BBC and depicted by the archived links provided above.

Also, comparing the data here with the ones listed in other databases is of no use as each site has its own set of rules.

Consequently, as already indicated, there will be no change here.

I am once again requesting a second pair of eyes on this matter. You are actively degrading the quality of this database and downstream services, abusing your position to ensure your insane and franky fabricated position is upheld - this is not acceptable.

Another database which has sane and grounded moderators stated that they would be keeping the franchises separate: https://www.thetvdb.com/series/339732-show#notes

Not sure if pings work on this site; @travisbell, please review this thread and draw your own verdict. Thank you.

Here is a summary of the known facts :

• On September 19, 2022 and September 20, 2022 (at 11:37), the BBC had a page specifically for "Cunk on Earth" : https://web.archive.org/web/20220919043146/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001cbmw
• The first episode of "Cunk of Earth" was broadcasted on September 20, 2022 at 22:00 (unfortunately, we don't have an archive of the BBC page at that time)
• Between September 20, 2022 (at 11:37) and September 27, 2020 (at 14:23), this specific page was replaced by a page titled "Cunk on...", merging "Cunk on Britain" (broadcasted in 2018) and "Cunk on Earth" : https://web.archive.org/web/20220927142319/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001cbmw (this change took place during the original broadcast of the series)
• The second episode of "Cunk on Earth" was broadcasted on September 27, 2022 at 22:00 (after the above change on the site)
• The last episode of "Cunk on Earth" was broadcasted on October 18, 2022 at 22:00
• Per our rules, If the title of a TV show changes during its initial broadcast, we update the original title and add the previous title as an alternative title.
• ...
• On February 14, 2024, the BBC page was still merge : https://web.archive.org/web/20240214150134/https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001cbmw/episodes/guide
• ...
• Between February 14, 2024 and December 30, 2024 (exact date unknown, seen by a user on December 30, 2024 and archived on January 14, 2025), more than a year after the original broadcast, the BBC page have been split in 2 separate pages for "Cunk on Britain" and "Cunk on Earth".

Comparing between sites is of no use as each site has its own set of rules.

• On TVDB, based on this note, they don't change the title of a series once the first episode has been broadcasted.
• On TMDB, if the title change during the original broadcast, we update the title.

I have asked other moderators to come to give their opinion.