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I must of totally missed that part.

it was three minutes into the pilot

@volkstraum said:

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I think it was bold to make Johnny an ignorant 1980's, or shall we say stuck in the 1980's mid life crisis bum.

Without spoilers the younger Johnny the bully in high school was the same way and he never grew up.

I can't say too much without going into spoilers but it showed he was actually willing to help these "immigrants" who we know weren't actually immigrants the kid was from Riverside, instead of you know who, but I don't want to get into spoilers.

@MrCharmingMan said:

@volkstraum said:

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I think it was bold to make Johnny an ignorant 1980's, or shall we say stuck in the 1980's mid life crisis bum.

Without spoilers the younger Johnny the bully in high school was the same way and he never grew up.

I can't say too much without going into spoilers but it showed he was actually willing to help these "immigrants" who we know weren't actually immigrants the kid was from Riverside, instead of you know who, but I don't want to get into spoilers.

The same message was gracefully illustrated in the original movie, but this time, the message was laced in barbed wire and wrapped around a baseball bat. Too blunt.

That "immigrant" is one of the main characters and ends up becoming very close with johnny.

You're really thin skinned it seems.

I'm an immigrant and it didn't bother me one bit, actually, I laughed.

I think the OP was a little too harsh and too quick to dismiss this show based on a single line from one of the main characters. The line he said wasn't a political statement from the producers or studio. It was made by an ignorant person still stuck in his youth when his outlook in life hasn't been tempered by political correctness or even maturity.

@Dark_Sithlord said:

I think the OP was a little too harsh and too quick to dismiss this show based on a single line from one of the main characters. The line he said wasn't a political statement from the producers or studio. It was made by an ignorant person still stuck in his youth when his outlook in life hasn't been tempered by political correctness or even maturity.

He probably should have said it in a thick German accent while adjusting his monocle. Just so the viewers are clear he is the baddie.

@volkstraum said:

He probably should have said it in a thick German accent while adjusting his monocle. Just so the viewers are clear he is the baddie.

He's not the baddie, though. He actually grows a lot over the course of the show and, while he does keep making dumb decisions, does try to do good.

Yeah, you're deliberately ignoring context just so you can criticise the series. Johnny was one of the villains in the first film (arguably), as the result of terrible teaching from a worse guy. The series is about him attempting to make that right, and learning about his own flaws in the process. It's hard to get more nuanced than that. Your own insistence that the message was "too blunt" is more reflective of your own intolerance than the characters.

@volkstraum said:

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You are literally everything that's wrong with our society right now, and the very reason this show was created.

You could have just laughed for what it was. You could have even stuck around to see how the bitter, angry guy who doesn't like immigrants ends up falling in love with his Puerto-Rican neighbour and bonds with her son, the two becoming surrogate father and son to each other. The entire point of this show is about how hate begets hate, how bad division is, how revenge and resentment is unhealthy and the importance of forgiveness and redemption.

But no. People like you don't believe in that. People like you don't believe in forgiveness or redemption. You're not interested in understanding or coming together. As far as you're concerned, you're right, your values are superior, everyone who thinks differently than you is a garbage human who deserves to not exist.

For people who obsessively preach about "tolerance" you people are surprisingly intolerant.

Also, it's pathetic how you are SO thin skinned that a line like that would cause you to switch a show off. I mean, what are you, 5 years old?

@Dark_Sithlord said:

I think the OP was a little too harsh and too quick to dismiss this show based on a single line from one of the main characters. The line he said wasn't a political statement from the producers or studio. It was made by an ignorant person still stuck in his youth when his outlook in life hasn't been tempered by political correctness or even maturity.

You're mostly correct. However, I would argue that IRL "Political Correctness" has morphed into something just as toxic as the things it was originally meant to fix, and is actually causing more problems than it's solving in 2022. Cobra Kai is definitely an anti-political-correctness show. But it's also an anti-hate show (and I mean hate in all its forms, not just prejudice).

The "more immigrants" line was meant as both a little "shocking" humor but also to show how bitter and angry Johnny is at this point in his life. It's not like the show is about a racist who learns to not be racist through the virtues of political-correctness. If Miguel was a blonde white kid Johnny would've been just as rude and would've found some physical attribute to make a snarky comment about.

The show also shows how toxic "woke" people can be with their self-righteousness and how they can often resemble the very "bigots" they claim to be fighting. If Cobra Kai is making any kind of allegorical point about present day politics and society, it's that the opposite extremes are equally terrible, hatred for your enemies leads to nothing but pain and misery for yourself, and enlightenment and happiness is found through empathy for your enemies, forgiveness and finding common ground.

@ComputerBlue said:

That "immigrant" is one of the main characters and ends up becoming very close with johnny.

You're really thin skinned it seems.

I'm an immigrant and it didn't bother me one bit, actually, I laughed.

Exactly. Because you're a mature adult who has a sense of humor. The OP is obviously some emotionally stunted, hyper-sensitive, fragile baby who is triggered by the slightest thing he or she finds "offensive". Literally 99% of content is geared toward people like him/her but they're still mad that there's 1% like Cobra Kai in existence.

I'm glad I wasn't the first person with some sense to have responded to this.

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