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Turns TOS Quaint Endings Dark
posted by Midi-chlorian_CountSTAFFMOD on February 23, 2019 at 3:26 AM
I used to love the classic endings on TOS where Kirk and Bones would have a good laugh at Spock's use of logic and failure to embrace emotion. Even Spock it seemed was in on the joke, raising an eyebrow at their attempts at "humour".
But know Discovery has come along and told us that wrestling with logic / suppressing his emotions has caused Spock to go nuts / crackers / bananas (<- insert your own personal favourite food based mental health metaphor here) and be locked up by Starfleet!
This would surely be prominently displayed on his record so what are we now to make of his future Captain and ship's DOCTOR no less (!) continuously laughing in his face at the very thing which already caused this fine young man to suffer a psychiatric breakdown?!! Was the raised eyebrow actual a cry for help? A pleading for their torture to stop? Dark stuff, very dark...
Reply by wonder2wonder
on February 23, 2019 at 6:51 AM
I posted this comment on another board:
Rewatching the original series, makes you wonder if Spock's behaviour there has anything to do with what we know from him now as NuSpock. Every word and action is scrutinized and seen in a different light.
Is he really being logical or just an emotionally disturbed, traumatized and sexually frustrated character who conceals everything behind the facade of this so-called 'Vulcan teachings of Surak'.
Did Michael teach him the 'nerve pinch' and did he use it for dishonourable reasons?
Just one of the many (crazy) thoughts that start popping up.
Note:
When I use the term "NuSpock" I mean any version of Spock that is not the Spock (and the Mirror-Spock) from the original series.
It makes it easier for me to distinguish between them and the original Spock (and Mirror-Spock).
One could discuss the other versions of Spock by identifying them as Kelvin Spock, Disc Spock, Disc Mirror-Spock, and so on, but it becomes quite confusing. Especially when you also start including the discussion about in which timeline and which (paralell/alternate) universe they exist.
And although it is (teasingly) claimed by the showrunner that Spock with a beard from "ST: Discovery" is the original Spock, I prefer to place him in the other group for the time being.
Reply by Nexus71
on February 23, 2019 at 6:30 PM
Episode six actually feels like it is in the spirit of an episode of TOS.
And although it is (teasingly) claimed by the showrunner that Spock with a beard from "ST: Discovery" is the original Spock, I prefer to place him in the other group for the time being.
I agree especially since in all 53 years of Star Trek we have never had Vulcans with beards only in the Mirror universe.Maybe this whole EMO Spock is because he is partly human?And I think he looks like Lon Chaney Jr. in The Wolf Man
Reply by Knixon
on February 23, 2019 at 9:18 PM
Or rather than get all twisted up trying to make sense of it all, which is futile because the creators/writers of Discovery never seemed to think that had any importance, just do what I do:
Ignore Discovery.
Reply by Costumers
on February 24, 2019 at 7:58 PM
I am not sure that Spock's problems have anything to do with him wrestling with logic vs. emotion. I don't recall anyone saying anything about that at all; IRRC Spock signs himself into treatment for .... we aren't told. If I've missed some dialog which says otherwise I'm open to correction.