The premise is good, 13 reasons and 13 tapes.
But I didn't think Hannah seemed to have a good reason to kill herself. The writers could have sharpened the "reasons". Maybe she could have been accused of inviting the rape. Maybe Clay could have said "just go kill yourself!" like lots of teens say in a moment of anger or frustration.
Clay didn't do anything wrong and when his friend said he also was responsible for killing her I was expecting a big moment that never came.
I also think that Hannah's reason for the tapes wasn't really apparent. Was she trying to save others? Expose how horrible people are?
And we never got to see Bryce arrested or anything. There could have been a montage of the consequences. Also I didn't really get why Alex shot himself?
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Reactie van TrentTX
op 14 juni 2017 om 9:35 PM
Season 2 may provide some justice for Bryce. Also, I'm not sure Alex shot himself. Maybe Season 2 is "Who shot Alex?". Did they say a self-inflicted gunshot? Dont' remember if they did. I hope not.
Reactie van intothenightalone
op 14 juni 2017 om 11:15 PM
I wasn't sure what happened there. Is there going to be a season 2? Is there a second book?
Reactie van Jana
op 15 juni 2017 om 7:06 AM
There will be a season two with, as I understand it, arrests and trials. We will also see what happens with Tyler and his weapons cache.
We are all individuals. Hannah was extremely fragile, more than anyone could ever imagine and that's what she was trying to say with those tapes. She was really good at hiding it but I bet that she felt like she was completely alone and naked all the time and she probably questioned every word you said to her.
Reactie van New_Donatella
op 15 juni 2017 om 10:44 AM
People that commit suicide tend to do it for the smallest things. She's an emotional teenage girl so obviously everything affected her more than adult.
I found her to be over emotional, I probably would have cut ties with her as well.
Reactie van intothenightalone
op 15 juni 2017 om 6:42 PM
Yes, emotionally unhinged.
Reactie van sati_84
op 26 juni 2017 om 8:42 AM
I think what Tony meant by that was that yes, Clay was responsible, but no more responsible than anyone else on the tapes (except Bryce of course). He never mentions anything specific pertaining to Clay. He is talking about the 13 reasons in general. And it is an important scene to remind us that Clay too had an effect on Hanna's life as well as all the others. Of course it can be interpreted as a reference to something, a big moment as you put it that never came...
... and that was exactly the point. There is no "big moment". There is no one reason. There is not even one reason why a specific person is responsible. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts. Weighed in isolation, even Hannah herself would have brushed these things off (again, except for what Bryce did of course), but keep 'em coming like this in a cascade, in a torrent of small cuts, when there is no escape, no one to talk to, no one to have a serious discussion with, no one to lean on, even Clay doesn't seem to pick up on the extent Hannah is already harmed... - that can seriously break a girl like that. And of course, Bryce as the final blow. And that is the point of the show to hit you with this fact that Clay did not do anything wrong - but in a sense he did everything wrong in every interaction they had with Hannah.
It seriously makes you think about interpersonal connections, interpretations, seemingly innocent phrases (like the "kill yourself" you mentioned). Also, speaking of innocent phrases: I recommend the book "Curtain" by Agatha Christie. It teaches a valuable lesson about these "innocent phrases".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtain_(novel)
Reactie van sati_84
op 26 juni 2017 om 8:42 AM
Indeed - but let's not forget that she doesn't start out like that.
Reactie van acf
op 5 juli 2017 om 6:56 PM
That would just make the plot less subtle and tacky, sorry. And less believable: one does not decide to commit suicide upon one simple reason.
Coping mechanisms, tou know?
I believe Alex did shot himself, he was one of the few kids who actually felt guilty for the way he acted with Hanna.
Now, my guess for season 2 is that Tyler is going to take his arsenal to school and shoot all of the kids in Hanna's tapes/ all the bullies one by one, except for Alex - who was let out of Tyler's hall of fame, not because Tyler knows he's already dead (or almost) but because Tyler recognizes he has good character (or at least that he stood up for him against that Montgomery kid).