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probably wrong episode numbers
posted by Sami22STAFFMOD on April 6, 2023 at 7:32 AM
wrong episode numbers. Episodes are sorted by release date, shouldn't they be chronological? Each episode has a different release date in each country, however, you could sort them chronologically by plot. For example: Now: E05 - Fu Furieux; = Chronology: - E06 Now: E12 - Psycomédien; = Chronology: - E05 e.t.c
Reply by superboy97
on April 6, 2023 at 9:37 AM
As per our rules, for all series, the episodes should be ordered by the airdates in the original country of the series. (TF1 (France) in the case of this series).
If you want them in another order, you can use an existing episode group or create a new one.
Reply by pcela
on October 29, 2023 at 4:23 PM
The first season premiered in September 2015 on the Korean station EBS.
Reply by superboy97
on October 29, 2023 at 4:33 PM
This is a French series. Consequently, we should use the French dates.
Reply by pcela
on October 30, 2023 at 10:10 AM
More precisely, it's French-Korean-Japanese. The first season premiered in Korea (EBS), the second in Spain (Disney Channel), the third in Spain (Disney Channel), the fourth in Brazil (Gloob), the fifth in Brazil (Gloob).
In addition, it is Disney that decides where a given episode had its world premiere.
Reply by superboy97
on October 30, 2023 at 10:25 AM
Even, if South Korea and Japan have participated to the production, this is officially a French series created by Thomas Astruc for Zagtoon. As such, it should be listed based on its French broadcast.
Zagtoon and Method Animation are credited as production companies.
The other ones are only credited as co-production companies.
Reply by pcela
on October 30, 2023 at 12:39 PM
Twórcą serialu, producentem i reżyserem jest Jeremy Zag. Thomas Asturc jest zaś scenarzystą i zastępcą reżysera.
Natomiast prawa do serii maja: ZAG Entertainment (Zagtoon), Method Animation, SAMG Entertainment, Toei Animation. Są to główni producenci serialu.
Co do kraju produkcji, to Francuzi dali pomysł, a Koreańczycy i Japończycy technologię i środki finansowe (oczywiście mówimy o pierwszym sezonie). Tak więc patrząc na kraj, który miał największy udział w produkcji, to należałoby wskazać tu Koreę Południową i stację EBS, na której zamówienie powstał pierwszy sezon. Natomiast za produkcję odpowiada studio SAMG (sezony 1 - 4). Dlatego jako kraj oryginału wymienia się Koreę, Francję i Japonię. Co do języka, to oryginalnym jest angielski (to produkcja międzynarodowa), potem powstał dubbing koreański i francuski.
ps. Nie mylić z filmem kinowym, który jest produkcją czysto francuską.
Reply by superboy97
on October 30, 2023 at 1:01 PM
We are going as per the on-screen credits which indicate that the main production companies are Zagtoon and Method Animation and that the others are co-production companies.
Reply by pcela
on October 30, 2023 at 2:51 PM
ZAG Entertaiment to firma z USA (3002 Main Street, Santa Monica, CA, 90405), choć jej właściciel jest francuzem. Method to firma francuska.
A tu screeny z wersji koreańskiej: https://i.ibb.co/wN8X9Yb/1.jpg https://i.ibb.co/LztdWJ0/2.jpg https://i.ibb.co/MpxSmfd/3.jpg
I jak już pisałem pierwszy odcinek został wyemitowany 1 września 2015 roku na antenie stacji koreańskiej stacji EBS1. Na antenie TF1 odcinek został wyemitowany dopiero 19 października 2015. To ponad 1,5 miesiąca różnicy. Drugi sezon miał premierę 21 października 2017 na antenie Disney Channel w Hiszpanii, a we Francji 11 grudnia 2017r (TF1) Trzeci sezon miał premierę 1 grudnia 2018 na antenie Disney Channel w Hiszpanii, a we Francji dopiero 14 kwietnia 2019 (TF1). Daje to 4 miesiące różnicy.
Reply by superboy97
on October 30, 2023 at 3:20 PM
The production company is Zagtoon, not Zag Entertainment. Zagtoon is a French subsidiary of Zag Entertainment.
As per our rules, the dates that should be listed are the dates in the origin country, that mean the French dates, not the absolute first dates.
Quoting the Korean Wikipedia page (bottom of the infobox) : "프랑스의 회사들이 제작을 주도하고, 대한민국의 삼지 애니메이션과 일본의 도에이 애니메이션이 제작에 참여하며, TF1과 한국교육방송공사, SK 브로드밴드 등이 협력하는 방식으로 진행되었으나, 이 중 SAMG 엔터테인먼트은 대한민국 국내 라이선스 사업 ", which translate to "French companies led the production, Korea's Samji Animation and Japan's Toei Animation participated in the production, and TF1, Korea Educational Broadcasting Corporation, and SK Broadband cooperated, but among these, SAMG Entertainment was involved in the domestic licensing business in Korea."