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Was anyone else disappointed with the fact that "Samurai World" was just a re-culturization of the same plotline and characters of Westworld? When we got glimpses of samurai warriors at the end of S1 I was thinking, oh boy, they are going to franchise this whole deal. While I didn't think the series had the legs for such an adventure, I was pretty disappointed when one of the Westworld characters said "This all feels so strangely familiar." when entering town in Samurai World. Then we get the big reveal. And the "big" revelation that the writer for the compound had too short of a deadline to write a whole new story. It was almost like an Inception-esk fourth-wall break for the actual writers of the show.

Anyway, it saddened me because the other worlds might have been so much fun to explore if not for the copout parallel plotlines. Speaking of which, wouldn't this have made the whole experience less desirable for paying customers? Wouldn't they notice the same repeated patterns? The whole thing kinda made my head hurt at first, then once I understood it I felt like it was just a way to stretch the whole season out.

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@Invidia said:

Sorry, @Invidia, for some reason I had you blocked? Anyway, all fixed now.

So WHY do you think they would have the SHOWGUN MADAME feel like her sidekick was a daughter and then have MAEVE IGNORE CLEMENTINE for the most part so she can OBSESS over the younger girl who no longer even knows who MAEVE is anymore???

This silliness was shown in Ep 6, but you are right. Although in Shogun World I understood the person you call a "sidekick" to be more like a daughter in that she took her in and rebuilt her self worth. In both timelines Maeve/her "daughter" are killed in various ways.

This is definitely NOT a REPEAT of what we saw happening when MAEVE's not even with CLEMENTINE anymore.

So we also have quite a DIFFERENT PLOT and STORY LINE when we compare the characters from both WORLDS.

I'm pretty sure they went to great pains to show that they were, in fact, the same basic plot/story.

And MAEVE also wasn't willing to stay put and DIE in WESTWORLD the same way as the others did in SHOWGUN WORLD.

This is due to Maeve being "woke."

And what's MAEVE going to do with a DAUGHTER who doesn't remember her anymore???

Taking her with her to the OUTSIDE WORLD would probably also NOT WORK when the girl has also been raised in the setting that took place 2 CENTURIES ago.

The poor kid would most likely feel like a FISH out of WATER and suffer some kind of CULTURAL SHOCK if MAEVE took her to a WORLD with a more MODERN setting.

You rightly predicted what would come in Ep 6, and the overall foolishness (that one would think a "woke" robot would understand) of Maeve's mission.

@Invidia said:

Then where's the YOUNG DAUGHTER of the other MADAME???

Oh, I see what you are saying there. Yes, I was totally misunderstanding that. You are correct. That said, I think Maeve was viewing the other madame's care for her--shall we say--"adopted" daughter, as a similar expression of her own care for the girl who was her "daughter" in WW.

Why didn't she also tell MAEVE that she could also remember her OTHER LIFE where she also use to be a MOTHER of a young child???

I don't think anyone is asserting that everything is exactly duplicated (as far as robot assignments, roles, etc, but rather than the storylines were duplicated.

MAEVE is AWAKE and AWARE of what's going on.

This other MADAME was NOT and she also REJECTS IT each time MAEVE tries to tell her something that would help to AWAKEN her to REALITY.

This is the whole point of Maeve's role...she's been waking other robots throughout. As far as SW, it seemed to me that they got an idea of what she was hinting about (in fact, I believe in one specific scene she was "communicating" the real truth), but made a conscious decision to not know, not pursue, and stay. It's that pesky old free will thing again.

These are the very questions the series is grappling with. It's a human allegory. Edit: The show is an allegory about the human experience.

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