She was to get off the train and go back for her daughter. Who wrote those subroutines into her consciousness? If she is just executing a script, is she conscious?
لم تجد الفلم أو المسلسل ؟ سجل دخولك و انشئها
هل تريد تقييم او اضافة هذا العنصر للقائمة؟
لست عضو؟
رد بواسطة movie_nazi
بتاريخ مايو 9, 2018 في 2:10 مساءا
Actually, it was BERNARD who showed her that she had been preprogrammed.
رد بواسطة movie_nazi
بتاريخ مايو 9, 2018 في 10:14 مساءا
No because Bernard knows how the programming on the hosts work. The hosts have a "cornerstone" . That is, a backstory that defines their personality. This is revealed when he asks Ford why he injected him with that painful memory and he finally makes peace with it when he tells Charlie, "I love you but you are not real". This is the same thing with Maeve. She also tells Bernard to remove the memory of the daughter but he says if he did that she would "cease to exist" , that is she would go back to being a machine and would lose her consciousness. What defines us (according to the show) is our suffering or rather suffering is a big part of what makes us human. The pain, the loss, the grief, the recovery, etc. The entire experience is valuable as painful as it is.
رد بواسطة movie_nazi
بتاريخ مايو 10, 2018 في 8:30 صباحا
Yes because they don't want them to achieve consciousness because then the question arises as whether they are now human or machines and that is a HUGE can of worms. The writer (SIZEMORE is his name) is still wrestling with the fact that have indeed achieved consciousness because in S2E3 he gets all pissy when he sees Maeve and Hector holding hands. He says "HEY, you guys are not supposed to be together...." and starts spouting out the narrative he wrote for them. So it looks like he is still on the fence about it.
رد بواسطة chrisjdel
بتاريخ مايو 11, 2018 في 2:32 صباحا
Maeve wouldn't just kill Lee (the writer guy) if she didn't have to. Underneath that "I don't give a ѕhit" exterior she does have a conscience. At this point I'd rather be traveling with her than Dolores, that's for sure.
We saw the Mainland Infiltration narrative Bernard was looking at. The fact that Maeve took the tablet and broke it in anger tells us that she believed him, but didn't want to believe him - if you know what I mean. It didn't say anything about getting off the train to retrieve her daughter though. The moment she got up and went back into the park she was off narrative and charting her own course.
Note that being impacted by a narrative, or uttering lines of dialogue created for them, doesn't mean they're not sentient. We humans are on loops too. Do you get up around the same time every morning, eat breakfast, and go to work? Do you go to the same place for lunch and tend to pick from a limited handful of choices to order? Your day is full of routine. There are a million different reasons why we stay within certain boundaries, but simple conditioning is a big part of it. None of which means you're not sentient.