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So - I binge watched it all because there was nothing better to watch. It seemed odd that Elishia never did come back to life - she had such a major role in the beginning and then she was gone. I thought they would have enlarged on the romance through time between her and William - being as that was the whole reason for the story they should have delved into it a little deeper. I found Kate's fluctuating love for James a bit irritating and the whole my sick sister episode pretty dull and predictable. Kirstie got on my nerves - she was supposed to be nineteen but acted like a twelve year old and looked about 27. Also the guy in the wheelchair's amazing recovery which seemed pretty implausible to me - and his eventual demise - roll down a bit of a hill and end up in water about two feet deep and it kills you? I saw blood in the water so I assume he hit his head on a rock - which works for me - evil devil. Kate noticing the tablet residue in the stew was ridiculous - and William had to be a retard to leave the packaging next to the stove. I don't understand the reason for the introduction of the two new characters, Belle and Chi. They didn't really add anything to the story and it is astonishing how many pieces of fabric one can find in a cemetery these days. Once again they seemed to have been buried minus coffins and about two feet deep. The compulsory gay love scenes made their tedious appearance - complete with hairy legs in black stockings which is not a good look - and poor Raf probably wished he had left well alone by the end of it. By the way ladies and gents - shorts are not the most flattering items of apparel.

@strangebedfellows said:

This contains spoilers.

So - I binge watched it all because there was nothing better to watch. It seemed odd that Elishia never did come back to life - she had such a major role in the beginning and then she was gone. I thought they would have enlarged on the romance through time between her and William - being as that was the whole reason for the story they should have delved into it a little deeper.

Ditto. Elishia started the whole thing in this time period, and she and William had a history of coming back to life and finding each other. So how did that happen? That is a big question which was never answered. Elishia used science to raise the dead. OK, but how did William rise from the dead before, and how did Elishia? No explanation was ever hinted at. In this season they added a flashback in which William told a priest that he needed to die because he "broke the rules". Was that an afterthought? Nowhere in the first two seasons did they indicate that William had worried that he had broken the rules in the past. I get the sense that perhaps the writers did not have a preconceived plot for the whole series, that they sort of made it up as they went along, perhaps with a basic idea for the total plot. It feels like the Elishia / William multiple resurrections and romance through the ages arc was some spontaneous idea they threw in, perhaps thinking they would tie it into the story later on, but maybe they later decided it didn't fit the rest of the plot, or maybe they were never concerned about continuity of that arc, or the series as a whole. They figured the viewers wouldn't be bothered if they never tried to make some kind of sense of it.

"I found Kate's fluctuating love for James a bit irritating and the whole my sick sister episode pretty dull and predictable. Kirstie got on my nerves - she was supposed to be nineteen but acted like a twelve year old and looked about 27. "

Well, we found out who Owen was calling at the end of season 2 at least. It was his scumbag, lowlife, cellmate from prison days. KIRSTIE... She has been a bitchy, crazy, character from the start. In episode 6 she decided to go back to the Noregard guy and on to Sweden. She wanted Charlie to come with her, but Charlie said he was staying to fight James along with the others. This was the first time Charlie has sounded like a man in the whole series. Kirstie told him he had to come with her. He calmly and firmly told her if she wanted to do that she should, but he was staying there. Then Kirstie said "I can't do this without you." Charlie said yes you can. A few seconds later Kirstie angrily told the group she didn't need any of them. haha. That is Kirstie. She is all over the place.

"Also the guy in the wheelchair's amazing recovery which seemed pretty implausible to me - and his eventual demise - roll down a bit of a hill and end up in water about two feet deep and it kills you? I saw blood in the water so I assume he hit his head on a rock - which works for me - evil devil. "

Pete Rennix, wheelchair guy, died when he hit the bottom of the stairs. Then he came back to life immediately just like Vic, Phil, and Sarah. That's why he was healed, it was the magic of the universe sending him on a mission to 'enforce the rules.' He didn't let on that he was out to kill anyone, not right away. I thought it was bit convenient that he died from that fall down the creek bank, or very unlucky. He could have broken his neck, and then drowned. I guess they made the water bloody to leave no doubt that he was dead. Perhaps he hit a rock, as you said.

"Kate noticing the tablet residue in the stew was ridiculous - and William had to be a retard to leave the packaging next to the stove. I don't understand the reason for the introduction of the two new characters, Belle and Chi. They didn't really add anything to the story and it is astonishing how many pieces of fabric one can find in a cemetery these days. Once again they seemed to have been buried minus coffins and about two feet deep. The compulsory gay love scenes made their tedious appearance - complete with hairy legs in black stockings which is not a good look - and poor Raf probably wished he had left well alone by the end of it. By the way ladies and gents - shorts are not the most flattering items of apparel."

In the first couple of seasons I gave William the benefit of the doubt. I cut him a lot of slack. But I grew a bit tired of him this season. He is a bit retarded sometimes. He seems to lack control of his anger. [Many of the male characters are very emotional. William cannot control his anger, James sobs so hard his body shakes, Chris gets hyper excited, irrational, and overly alarmed over things when nobody else is worried, and Chi absolutely freaks out at times. I see this as the influence of feminism. Not since I was about 10 years old has there been a TV show with an emotional woman who depended upon her strong, calm, masculine, confident, dominant, man. I think feminists want to show men as hysterical, very emotional, weak, irrational, etc. and show the women as in charge, rational, cool headed, and so on.] The only reason I saw for Chi was a weak connection to Patrick Fitzgerald when he was a young man. You recall he told Beau that he made his money selling equipment and supplies to the miners, including rum laced with opium. This season through Chi's flashbacks we see Patrick Fitzgerald as a young man, using Chi to get opium, and ultimately murdering Chi. The Belle character was for the story arc showing fundamentalist Christians as terrible people, which checks another PC box. I can't see any other reason for her. I knew it was coming. Charlie was going to meet some guy and have a thing. Through another of his flashbacks we visited the issue of prejudice against homosexuals, another PC box gets checked. And Charlie must be very blind not to have realized that Raf in drag was not a woman. Maybe Raf got his wig from the same people who made Philip Jennings toupee.

By the way, when Raf was in the Royal in his cutoff jean shorts, he joked that he could almost pass. I guess he meant pass for being straight. Maybe you know this. Are shorts a gay clothing thing? I like to wear shorts in the summertime. If I wear long pants they stick to my legs when I perspire. I hope I am not sending the wrong message to anyone.

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There is an Aussie show called Mr. Inbetween about some criminal for hire. It is on the second season now. I don't know if you can get that one.

I don't have Mr InBetween - unsurprisingly. Not on Netflix anyway. I am stupid - I didn't realise that Pete Rennix died at the bottom of the steps !! Another thing I didn't notice was the way James "died" in Tasmania - I must have dozed off or simply not interpreted what happened correctly. With regard to the feminist slant - men weak - women strong - I noticed that this series was co-written by a woman - and I seem to recall an inner groan when I noticed that some episodes were directed by women. If there is a strong female involvement in any series I tend to steer clear - whilst bellowing for equality most women do not want equality - they want superiority - when I pointed this out in another thread - that equality means just that - both sexes equal - I was told by a female responder that my thinking was very dangerous and retrograde. So that, I think, proves my point. Raf - there was absolutely no need for his character - just another excuse to show us how liberal we all are now - as if we need reminding when most shows these days are saturated with gay sex scenes. He was very pretty - maybe he was somebody's boyfriend. "He could almost pass" I think he meant he could almost pass for a woman - he'd have to shave his legs first!! I haven't heard of any association between shorts and gaydom. Not normal shorts anyway - you only have to look at the hunks of hairy legged he-dom in Bermudas to knock that notion on the head. However - I would look with suspicion at any male wearing short tight bum-hugging shorts.

update - I have started watching a Russian series called "Silver Spoon" I am only half way through the first episode and it was a real struggle to get here - but if you can persevere it looks like it could improve. Major point in question at the moment is could a Russian oligarch wield enough power to get his son employed by the police department?. Answer is probably yes !! There are three seasons of this which is why I thought I might give it a go. I don't think season three is on Netflix yet though.

We're in luck. I have Silver Spoon here also. I will watch the first episode and let you know my thoughts. It sounds like it could be good. You never know.

I wasn't paying close attention when I started watching season 3. I was tired and dozed off. I should have waited til I was fresh to watch it, but was excited to finally have season 3 to watch. I completely missed the bit when James slipped and smacked his head against the sink. Later I saw that he was like Vic and Phil so I went back and watched it over again. I was looking for his quick death the second time so I caught it. But frankly it didn't look like that serious of an injury. He should have sustained a concussion, but nothing worse than that.

Before the incident in which he hit his head, when he was at his parents' home, James had an exchange with his mother which I couldn't believe. He was more than irritated, he had a small fit and was harsh toward his mother. He acted very immature, but I have come to expect that of James. Neither of his parents scolded him for his bad behavior, his temper tantrum, rather his dad invited him out for a beer at the restaurant [where he hit his head in the bathroom]. That is another example of the very liberal attitude toward raising children. When James acted up as he did, either or both of his parents ought to have firmly dressed him down for speaking that way to his mother, and in her own home no less. ... Anyway, having seen James' conversion to 'risen rule policeman' I was on the lookout for it when Pete fell and then got up so quickly. Phil had not long previously warned the group that people they knew and trusted would die and come back the way he did, and try to kill them. And the risen all seem to have their previous health issues (some of them anyway) healed when they arise. Kate had her breasts back, and no cancer for example. So when Pete walked I figured he was one of the risen rule police. But the writers were not consistent. Why didn't Pete try to kill Belle and Chi? He only seemed interested in killing Kirstie. (But probably a lot of people wanted to kill Kirstie; she seemed to piss people off for fun.)

"whilst bellowing for equality most women do not want equality - they want superiority - when I pointed this out in another thread - that equality means just that - both sexes equal - I was told by a female responder that my thinking was very dangerous and retrograde. So that, I think, proves my point."

BINGO! You nailed it. There is a much larger agenda behind feminism, and liberalism generally. They seem to want to re-engineer society in many ways. A lot of angry feminists are really looking for revenge against the male gender for past wrongs and perceived injuries. It is the same with the militant, radical, gay and lesbian activists. It isn't tolerance, acceptance, or equality they are seeking, not really. They don't want equal rights so to speak. They want to punish and possibly outlaw or even eradicate those who are not fully on board with their agenda. They have tried to punish churches because of the millenniums old Christin teaching that men should not dress like women, that marriage is between a man and a woman, and so on. They have tried to criminalize such views. Why? "Because such views make people feel bad about themselves" is one answer I have heard. But why not just avoid attending church somewhere that teaches these things? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, right? Well, not according to these radical, liberal, activists. That is a dictatorial stance in which they seek to use the power of government to regulate both religious doctrine and personal opinions. I watched a video of a radical lesbian attorney speaking to a liberal group. She told them that gay marriage wasn't really the goal. Her position, and that of whatever larger strategic group of liberals she is a part of, is that the institution of marriage should be abolished, and pushing for gay marriage was just a step in that direction. I have no idea how widespread that viewpoint is. But it illustrates that social engineering society is the real goal of liberals. These people want to the power to dictate and force their views upon society as a whole. Frankly I don't give them much of a chance at getting rid of marriage. My point is that you're absolutely right when you point out that they don't seek equality. They are a hypocritical, creepy bunch of people, and they pose some degree of danger to the rest of us.

I wonder if you would like The Ugly Truth with Gerard Butler and Katherine Heigel. Butler always plays a regular guy and I tend to like his movies. He has a cable talk show called The Ugly Truth and talks about men and women. It's what they call an 'edgy' show. He told his female viewers at one point that if they want to find a man they should get a stair master.

Heigel is a producer for a local news station. Her station isn't making enough money and her boss hires Butler to do a spot on the show. One of my sisters got me to watch this movie with her and I enjoyed it. It didn't have the sappy feel so many romantic films have. Butler's character is down to earth and is a straight shooter. If you are ever out of things to watch and feel like taking a chance, just watch the first 10 minutes and see what you think.

I am deeper into "Silver Spoon" now and it has improved - in fact if they stopped with the stupid camera work it would be fairly enjoyable. I will look out for "The Ugly Truth" - I like Gerard Butler. No wonder I missed James' "death" if it was just a quick smack on the head. Yes - had I been his mother he would have had a right telling off from me - a mouthful of disrespect as you say - in her own home - when he had just asked her to look after his baby - going through all that rigmarole again at their age - it's hard enough when you are young. His father should have told him off as well. But maybe he thought it would make him cry !! I don't think women in particular will ever give up on the idea of marriage - it makes them feel superior to their single "sisters" and besides which what easier way is there to freeload for life. The laws on marriage are ridiculous in my view - they are so slanted in favour of women - a woman can cheat on a man - tell him to get out of the house he is paying the mortgage on and move her lover in - and the courts say - that's fine. In Britain you only have to live with somebody for six months and they can claim half of what you own - it's insane. I can't see any reason why anybody should be financially responsible for another adult if there are no children involved. It's one good reason to stay single and not live with anyone if you want to keep your assets safe. How can society ever be cohesive if one half of it is given carte blanche to leach off the other half?

It is getting really ridiculous. I can't imagine getting married again. I mean, if I met a great gal and fell in love I'm sure I would want to, but the way the laws are today, and the way the courts rule on things, I don't even want to think about it. If I ever did, I am not wealthy by any means, but I would still insist on a prenuptial agreement of some kind laying out a fair settlement we both agreed with.

I remember when I was younger and I heard about some guy who secretly videotaped his sexual encounters with women he brought home. I thought "what a creepy, classless, jerk". But these days I think anybody who doesn't videotape their sexual encounters is playing Russian roulette. I would never post it online or anything like that; I would save it in a vault. The feminists are always screaming that we have to believe women, not men. If she says rape, it is rape. People are convicted wrongly sometimes, there have been cases I have read about. Sometimes the guy goes to prison for a while before she has a crisis of conscience and recants her rape claim. Other times her story breaks down before he is convicted and she admits that she got angry at him and wanted to get back at him, so she alleged that he raped her. I am sure all the feminist crap women are taught is at least partly to blame. If she buys into it, she already believes she is a victim of male privilege or whatever. So when her feelings get hurt, she feels justified in 'getting even' this way.

I'm going to watch Silver Spoon this afternoon or evening.

The beginning of it is a nightmare so be warned - it takes over half and hour to become watchable but it does improve. I would never marry again - I have a problem with intimacy issues - I can't stand the royal "we" once you are married "I" is never heard again. Opening each others mail - needing somebody else's approval before you make a decision. I was in hospital once, and I asked the woman in the next bed what she was going to do about something - it was trivial - I can't even remember what - but her response was "oooh - I don't know - I'll have to ask my husband" - I cannot live like that let alone give him half of everything I worked for and achieved whilst he spent it all on drink. Maybe my life experiences have coloured my views - but for me - marriage is a non-starter.

First episode. Igor lays it on a little think, the flippant attitude I mean. But I noticed that in some other Russian TV shows. But I don't mind that. I think part of the reason he is playing it this way is so that later on when he has worked as a cop for a while there will be a bigger, more noticeable difference in his demeanor and attitude. I just watched the part where he was being framed and he escaped and his girlfriend is picking him up. ..He saw the dead little girl and I think this is a turning point for him. He has seen a terrible injustice and the seriousness of the job, the stakes involved, have affected him. He sees that piece of the plate holder on the ground and realizes it came from Stas's car. I don't get that he gave him two hours to turn himself in. I guess that was to help him get credit for turning himself in. But it would also have given him a chance to destroy evidence or run. It paid off, but it was risky. Now his fiancee has broken the engagement by throwing the rings at him. Oh well. Good thing he found out where she stood before getting hitched.

I recall one evening I wanted a bowl of cereal but we were out of milk. I grabbed my keys to go out to the store and my wife asked where I was going, and I told her. She said "but it's 9:30, that's late to be going out." She was acting like it could be dangerous. Granted, she had led a somewhat sheltered life, but I hadn't. I think it was about control. I couldn't stand that feeling, that I had to deal with flack from her over stuff. In what world is it dangerous to go to the store to buy milk at 9:30pm? I just told her not to worry, I would be right back. She started to make a fuss about it. She even told her parents about it later. I couldn't believe that. I was just going out to buy some milk. After we were separated she came to my mother's funeral. She told me she told her parents that she didn't know whether we might get back together. That was her way of trying to see if I could be persuaded to give it another go. I just didn't answer her. There was no way I was stepping back into that hell. It was almost a constant atmosphere of blame and disapproval. I remember once it rained when she wanted to do something outside, and she looked resentfully at me. As if it was my fault. A bad marriage can change your outlook.

It seems like your ex-wife had "issues". Blame and disapproval are impossible to live with - all the more so when it is silently conveyed. It is soul destroying. You took the wise course by sticking to your guns. My ex-husband was an alcoholic. We were teenagers when we met and I knew he liked a drink but I was so young it never occurred to me that he was actually an alcoholic. He thought that being married meant simply being a bachelor but living with a woman instead of his parents. I hardly ever saw him - he would dump me with his parents who lived around the corner and go to the pub until chucking out time. We used my income to live whilst he drank his. Our marriage lasted less than eighteen months and it put me off marriage for a lifetime. Oddly we are friends now and send each other cards throughout the occasions in the year - but we have no physical contact. I am still watching "Silver Spoon" - the only difficulty I find is following who is who because Russian names sound very similar to me. There are the usual misunderstandings and people doing things or not doing things that end up affecting the course of their lives - but that is standard fare and to be expected. I am guessing that his father is not the villain he thinks he is.

I am watching episode 3 now. So far what they have shown of his father leads me to believe he is a decent sort of person who is dealing with an irresponsible son. Igor seems to think his father was doing something which drove his mother to suicide, but there is no indication of that so far, and the father seems alright. Igor doesn't act like an idiot. In fact he is fairly intuitive at times. He ought to have known better than to buy a hot service pistol on the black market and try to pass it off as the one the cop lost. Also, I understand about not ratting on people, but if my tires were continually being slashed at work I would bust those doing it somehow. But I guess he correctly figures that if he had someone video the cops slashing his tires, they would just find some other way of getting back at him.

I find it a bit over the top that they would slash his tires time after time like that though. Those cops are demonstrating that they are no different from a criminal gang. They commit crimes and get away with it because they won't arrest each other, or tell on each other. But there is a real danger for them when they act this way. Usually organized crime members avoid killing police officers, but when cops show they are criminals with badges, the organized criminals may consider them fair game. Now, Igor isn't a criminal, but he probably knows people in that circle. In this story though, he wants to be an honest cop. His motivation seems to come largely from wanting to prove something to his father, and he also wants to show those who consider him a nobody and a screw-up that he is better than that. His trick of having his friend with the same car park there so they would slash his tires was pretty smart. I am a little tired of him trying to keep acting like the party boy and also trying to be a cop. Once a decision is made to change, there should be a better effort made to put aside the old ways. Hopefully they will show him being more responsible soon.

I am on Episode 10 - I wont say anything to spoil it for you. I just thought that Igor - for a young fit guy - is a pretty useless fighter ! I would have thought that part of his training would have included offensive and defensive fighting. Also he cannot be much use as a cop if he is not allowed a side arm. Maybe I am too used to smart American cop shows - but I find this "team" somewhat less than efficient !! That business with the cops slashing his tires day after day - that must cost a fair amount of money to replace - they know who's son he is - would they have really risked doing that? The simple answer was to buy a cheaper vehicle and leave the yellow submarine at home. At your moment he is dealing with every thing on a cash basis - it's what he is used to - he can buy his way out of any predicament. Some of the ways he tries to ingratiate himself with the team are quite amusing. Keep going - it does get better.

It is also stupid that he was never sent through any kind of basic training in police procedures, the law, none of that. In episode 5 after he found the dead retired detective in his bathtub, an apparent suicide, he failed to call anyone. Instead he went straight to see his father and accused him of killing the man. He walked around with his bloody clothes on and drank himself into a stupor. The similarity between his mother's suicide photos and the dead detective's 'suicide' lead me to question whether either was really a suicide. Also the timing is suspicious. All of this leads me to think both people were murdered, and I suspect Igor's father is somehow connected to them, though how isn't clear at this point. But given the fact that he has been shown as a responsible, decent sort of man, I wonder if he is not somehow complicit in his wife's death, and now in a cover-up killing. Writers like to throw us curve balls like that. Show us the good side of someone and then surprise us later by showing us his evil side.

The tall bald headed detective, the one who lost his weapon, Danila Korolyov, has had words with the short detective, Zhenya Averyanov, and booted him from his car, but they made up later on. I can visualize "baldy" going off the rails badly, eventually. Also, I think the captain likes Igor and they may eventually become an item. But they will probably tease us with that for a long time before it happens. Or it might never happen. But there is going to be some teasing of that possible relationship.

Your intuition is very good !! Danila is in dire need of anger management classes - it seems there is nothing Vika can say that will calm his jealous outbursts. She really wants to think twice about her involvement with him - a jealous man never changes - the jealousy is not - as so many women believe - because they love them - it's because they love themselves - but women seem to find it flattering. The control and rage and sometimes murder that goes along with it is not so flattering. The drinking scenes really get to me - for reasons you are now aware of - for a young man to destroy his life like that is very upsetting to me. (my ex - now in his later years has had to have his voice-box removed due to cancer - he smoked and drank heavily all of his young years) I don't know how he can function the next day let alone deal with criminals. Igor is not really being trained - he is dealing with their animosity rather than learning anything so we can't expect him to respect a crime scene or know what to do when he comes across one. What I find odd is the way he is willing to name his friends and contacts - does he think he can do this with no come-back? I thought it was silly to give Stasi 2 hours to give himself up after knocking down the little girl - he is a drug addict for goodness sake - with a rich daddy - he could be in another country in 2 hours!. His mother's killing is enshrouded in mystery - the flashbacks make it worse rather than better - I am not sure if the writers are sure where this is heading. They are piling suspicion upon his father but is this just a ruse? I guess we shall see !!.