Agree with most comments. A great season. Troy would not change, but why do they keep killing off the good villains? Troy should have lived. I don't think Nick or Daniel are dead, or Strand. I am worried about Alicia. They showed her gravestone alongside the dead Ottos. She was not in Madison's Thanksgiving dream, either. Or Nick. Not sure what that means. Some of the feasters we know to be dead, others we don't. The graves were all of people we know are dead except Alicia.

I agree that Alicia separating from the family seemed forced. I guess they needed to introduce Proctor John, whom I agree is a great character.

Loved that we got one last moment with Travis.

I think keeping Troy on board would take a bit of the focus away from Procter. Then again, Troy is a loose cannon, while Procter is more of a measured tyrant. The contrast could've been interesting. But all in all, especially when Troy was completely lacking remorse, telling Madison he'd do it all over again, that hammer to the head was so satisfying.

Nick's tolerance of Troy remains to be very disturbing though. He lied to Daniel to save Troy's arse. He looked upon his own mother as a cold murderer who would probably take out her own son. This is the same dude who went in and shot Troy's father in the head without thinking twice about it, yet he took offence to his mother doing the same to Troy himself?

When Nick was prepared to die with the dam, I was actually pleased to see the junkie put to rest but I guess that's no longer the case, since Daniel came to the rescue.

@larz9 said:

Nick's tolerance of Troy remains to be very disturbing though. He lied to Daniel to save Troy's arse. He looked upon his own mother as a cold murderer who would probably take out her own son. This is the same dude who went in and shot Troy's father in the head without thinking twice about it, yet he took offence to his mother doing the same to Troy himself?

I totally agree with this, sometimes it seems like the characters on the show aren't that well-drawn, simple and plain.

@Nubyan said:

I think Daniel will attempt to kill Strand on site.

Strand has yet to kill anyone. He is not a killer and was relieved when he saw Daniel was still alive.

Hey Nubyan, I sense a possible mistake in your posting, or am I wrong?

Did you perhaps mean to say "Strand will attempt to kill Daniel on sight"?

Something seems a little off there. I could be wrong.

@Satch_the_man: My bad. I use my mobile device and you sometimes have to review the auto correct. I guess I didn't.

Yes, I meant on sight. However, Daniel wanting to kill Victor on sight was accurate. He hates Victor.

@Satch_the_man said:

It was smart how they made Proctor John a dimensional character right from the start.

Im not sure, but I gather Proctor-John was a Yoga/Buddhist instructor or atleast practiced "Mindfulness" because he did mention that he made a living "bringing others to the light".

Only those who are part of the New Age-Spiritual Movement that is sweeping across America would understand what he means by this.. its all about "being the light" a beacom of hope and helping even just ONE SOUL awaken to their true reality, true potential by helping them break down all the walls (limitations) ones built up around ourselves and breaking free from "Conditioning".

Im not New Age but I am part of the Spiritual Movement..Buddhist, and I practice mindfulness.. so when its revealed that Proctor John (this MONSTER, KILLER) was a practicing spiritualist I face-palmed. Any true student of mindfulness would not act like such a monster.. then again.. it is an apocalyptic world.

Alicia says "Narcissists are drawn to Buddhism".. thats only true for one group of people...... those stuck up and privileged POSERS from LA that take Yoga classess as if its an EXERCISE, VEGAN only as a fad and inflate their own ego as if they have become enlightened. Thise are posers, narcissists.

Watch this!! 😂😂😂😂🤣 This is the ultimate New-Age Spiritual "Poser/Fake"

https://youtu.be/1kDso5ElFRg

@LadyFuzzy: I've been spiritually enlightened and taken to a higher plain. Spoken in a light whispery voice.

Freaking hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣

@Nubyan said:

@Horus Mazinga: Troy definitely had it coming. But I will miss him.

I disagree about him and redemption. Troy was never going to change. He just knew how to put shit on pause. The fact that he told Madison that he would lead the herd to the ranch all over again if he had to do it all over is why he got hammered.

He would not have changed, true. When his brother told the story of the skinned-alive rabbit done by Troy, I was completely done showing him any kind of mercy. He was a sociopath, unfeeling and corrupt.

@Dorian Gray Jokes Never Get Old said:

I'm pretty sure Nick isn't dead just because of Daniel. I really liked this season and the finale was very good. Alicia demanding to separate from family seemed to be odd and forced. That was the only major complaint I had about this season. I actually like the dynamics in Fear than in walking dead. It has more of an edge to it.

Well, the acting is very much better in this past season. The first was the worst.

@lennonforever said:

Well, the acting is very much better in this past season. The first was the worst.

Cheers! I really feel since his return that Ruben is the best actor on the show. Anyone agree?

ruben has been excellent. i enjoy his scenes quite a bit.

Ruben and Coleman Domingo.

i can’t imagine ftwd without strand.

@Nubyan said:

@LadyFuzzy: I've been spiritually enlightened and taken to a higher plain. Spoken in a light whispery voice.

Freaking hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣

😂 Oh I know people who actually talk like that! Id like to (pull a Maddie) and ding them upside the head! Note: I wouldnt actually do it♡

I was terribly bummed when Troy died... he was just so useful, wild and yes... attractive, sexy😍. I think a redemtion story would have been awesome for him! He is indeed a sociopath but they can be tamed. He felt fear for the first time ever which tells me there was still hope for him.

I really hope Nick survived.. I liked him from the start, he was flawed and broken but in his faults he became wise and resourceful!!! He also reminds me of a young Johnny Depp♡.