TMDb follows the original release. And, as far as I could tell, it was released as season six. If you're unhappy with the current listing, you can either a) find proof they were originally released as specials or b) create an alternative order with the episode group feature.

Travel Channel actually released the four part "special" as a separate show entitled: Expedition Unknown: Search for the afterlife

The details and order are listed below. https://www.travelchannel.com/shows/expedition-unknown-search-for-the-afterlife/episodes

None of the episodes TMDB has listed as "Season 6" for Expedition Unknown are ever listed in the official release catalogue of the show "Expedition Unknown"

It would be completely incorrect to class this four part release as season 6 of the main show as if it was ever intended to be that way, Travel Channel would have included it in the shows main catalogue at: https://www.travelchannel.com/shows/expedition-unknown/episodes/

If TMDB wants to be factually accurate then it should remove this season from the listing and allow for a new show to be created.

I will await the TMDB line on the issue before doing anything further, but these four episodes are most certainly not Season 6 of Expedition Unknown.

If TMDB wants to be factually accurate then it should remove this season from the listing and allow for a new show to be created.

If you're unhappy with the current listing, you can either a) find proof they were originally released as a separate show or b) create an alternative order with the episode group feature.

@banana_girl said:

If TMDB wants to be factually accurate then it should remove this season from the listing and allow for a new show to be created.

If you're unhappy with the current listing, you can either a) find proof they were originally released as a separate show or b) create an alternative order with the episode group feature.

I literally linked you to the show listed as a new show by the official channel that aired the show, seems you're less interested in proof and more interested in not having to change incorrect listings.

You have a season of episodes listed as part of a show that the official release channel of the show does not.

The official channel that aired the episodes has them as a separate show.

Either Travel Channel (official release channel) are wrong, or you're wrong.

Here is the travel channel facebook from the date in question

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=2234392520107711 (16th October 2018)

`Expedition Unknown: Search For The Afterlife Join Joshua Gates on a new kind of adventure that begins at the end.

ExpeditionUnknown Search For The Afterlife is on tonight at 9|8c.`

Makes it quite clear that this was aired as a new show.

https://www.amazon.com/Expedition-Search-Afterlife-Season-1/dp/B07J48RXK7

Here it is on Amazon, with the air dates.... also showing that it is a "new" show and not part of the main Expedition Unknown catalogue.

Here it is as a press release on Discovery Channel: https://press.discovery.com/us/dsc/press-releases/2018/josh-gates-explores-great-beyond-discoverys-f-4520/

Expedition Unknown: Search for the Afterlife Premieres Sunday, October 7 at 10pm ET/PT Explorer and host Josh Gates takes us beyond the grave in Discovery’s four-part special event EXPEDITION UNKNOWN: SEARCH FOR THE AFTERLIFE. Gates journeys across the globe to investigate into the spirit world and answer mankind’s greatest unsolved mystery – where do we go when we die? From a ghost hunt at one of the most haunted places on earth to getting a firsthand glimpse of the afterlife with ancient medicine, Josh will put it all on the line for a glance of what’s beyond this life. EXPEDITION UNKNOWN: SEARCH FOR THE AFTERLIFE premieres Sunday, October 7 at 10pm ET/PT followed by never-before-seen footage and discussion with Josh Gates in EXPEDITION UNKNOWN: AFTER THE SEARCH at 11pm ET/PT.

EXPEDITION UNKNOWN: SEARCH FOR THE AFTERLIFE premieres Sunday, October 7 at 10pm ET/PT

Clearly not season 6 of the main catalogue.

https://press.discovery.com/us/dsc/programs/expedition-unknown-search-afterlife/

I literally linked you to the show listed as a new show by the official channel that aired the show

The key word here is originally. This is most likely an alternative listing as the page is new.

Makes it quite clear that this was aired as a new show

Yet all the links seem to be to the main show. This is why I ask for proof.

https://press.discovery.com/us/dsc/programs/expedition-unknown-search-afterlife/

Is the official PR from 2018, it clearly shows a new show as /programs/expedition-unknown-search-afterlife/ and programs/expedition-unknown/ link to entirely different press releases for entirely different shows.

How you wish to order them is up to you but everyone who reads this ticket can clearly see that Discovery Channel and Travel Channel both in 2018 aired these episodes as a new show with its own urls and own program page and own press releases.

The proof is quite literally listed here.

@banana_girl said: Yet all the links seem to be to the main show. This is why I ask for proof.

Yet my links do not link to the main show at all:

https://press.discovery.com/us/dsc/programs/expedition-unknown-search-afterlife/ Does not link to Expedition Unknown

https://press.discovery.com/us/dsc/programs/expedition-unknown/ Does link to Expedition Unknown

Thank you for your time, you can close this.

The PR pages and the official website are often different. It doesn't mean the episodes were originally released as an independent series.

@banana_girl said:

The PR pages and the official website are often different. It doesn't mean the episodes were originally released as an independent series.

Well seeing as in 2018 the Discovery Channel literally told the world it was premiering a new special show titled "Expedition Unknown: Search for the After Life" here: Expedition Unknown: Search for the Afterlife Premieres Sunday, October 7 at 10pm ET/PT Explorer and host Josh Gates takes us beyond the grave in Discovery’s four-part special event EXPEDITION UNKNOWN: SEARCH FOR THE AFTERLIFE.

I would say it was pretty obvious to everyone thatthe episodes were originally released as an independent series.

No point continuing with this tho, the links are here for everyone to read and see, the final decision is with TMDB, everyone here is trying to help and posting as much info from the official channels as possible.

P.S The PR pages and the official website are often different. It doesn't mean the episodes were originally released as an independent series.....

Neither the Discovery Channel/Travel Channel official listings or PR releases have these episodes down as Season 6 of Expedition Unknown. The only place having that is TMDB, at this point to everyone reading, it is clear to deduce that according to TMDB the people who actually released the episodes are wrong, and the unofficial meta provider must be correct.

it is clear to deduce that according to TMDB the people who actually released the episodes are wrong

Now, you're just acting in bad faith. I've told both you and the OP--who believes the episodes are specials-- that I need proof to change the current TMDb listing. The archives are incomplete, but they do not appear support your theory. And you can see from previous reports that Discovery counted the episodes as a season of Expedition Unknown until very recently.

@banana_girl said:

it is clear to deduce that according to TMDB the people who actually released the episodes are wrong

Now, you're just acting in bad faith. I've told both you and the OP--who believes the episodes are specials-- that I need proof to change the current TMDb listing. The archives are incomplete, but they do not appear support your theory. And you can see from previous reports that Discovery counted the episodes as a season of Expedition Unknown until very recently.

There is zero bad faith, I have invested considerable time in researching this for accuracy, when I give you the information you reply with one line sentences not addressing the proof listed, that is bad faith.

"And you can see from previous reports that Discovery counted the episodes as a season of Expedition Unknown until very recently."

You have found that on WayBack which is great..... but they are no longer listed as season 6 correct?

Every bit of information now suggests they are a new mini series, they surely are allowed to change the stance? Why does this mean TMDB are not allowed to reflect the current offered structure by the providers? Does TMDB have to stick to the original but now incorrect format listing?

There is no bad faith at all here, only people trying to make things accurate.

Every bit of information now suggests they are a new mini series, they surely are allowed to change the stance? Why does this mean TMDB are not allowed to reflect the current offered structure by the providers? Does TMDB have to stick to the original but now incorrect format listing?

The main seasons are always in the ORIGINAL airing order. So no, we do not delete/move data when one distributor decides moves things around a few years after the release (especially Discovery).

There's a separate feature for alternative orders.

only people trying to make things accurate.

That's my only concerns too. But the main episode list has to accurately reflect the original airing order.

Ok thanks for the help, you can close this. I will meet you over on my ticket about Global Game Show :-)

So, if we have to order things by original airing order, then the season that just finished airing is season 10. But TMDB has it as season 11. That should also apply to seasons 6-9. So, we would need to actually have two separate season 6s. I think we can agree that wouldn't make much sense. So, currently, we're stuck with 5 seasons incorrectly numbered to accommodate this one. Now, I can't argue against the one source you provided. According to that, less than a year after the episodes aired, they did indeed have some clips of these episodes labeled as S6. I'm not sure that convinces me that that was the ORIGINAL intention for those episodes, but certainly, after 9 or so months, there was a period of time (these were removed less than three weeks later by Aug 7th) where some clips from the show were labeled as S6. I don't have any older sources to improve on that. But there are multiple sources listed above in addition to the sources I was relying on, IMDB and Discovery+. All those sources are consistent in saying that these four episodes are not a season of the main show. I think you also would have to look at the format. Hunt for the Yeti, Hunt for Extraterrestrials, and Search for the Afterlife each have subtitles under "Expedition Unknown" while none of the normal episodes have this. Each of those series also consists of exactly 4 episodes and follows a single topic for all four episodes. None of the regular series' seasons follow a single topic for more than two consecutive episodes, let alone an entire season. So, we have 4 episodes that don't match the main show's format and multiple sources that exclude them. The counterargument is based on a single web page from 9 months after airing that had them listed as a season for approximately 3 weeks. Also, to keep it as a season either requires us to have two separate season 6s or violate the same rule by incorrectly numbering five other seasons.

@samuraicyclist said:

Also, to keep it as a season either requires us to have two separate season 6s or violate the same rule by incorrectly numbering five other seasons.

I had to undo your seasons numbering modifications. As per our rules, after a seasons reorganisation (for example due to a network change), the new seasons are simply added after the existing ones. So, even if season 6 doesn't appear anymore on the official data, the following seasons should be called starting from season 7.

I understand. I think we're just trying to get rid of the erroneous season 6. As I said above, it was only unofficially (labeled as such under video clips) called a season for about 2 weeks. It never actually was one. It's not related to a network change, which happened prior to season 5. I just can't find any evidence beyond that one instance for two weeks that says it was a season. Meanwhile, everything else says it's not. I just can't understand why no one has fixed it yet.