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I love how on not just this show, but in seemingly all comic related shows and/or movies, the female characters ALWAYS have to get the upper hand on male characters. It's not just them being portrayed as inherently smarter than men in almost every scenario, but the fact that it is perfectly fine and often played up as comedy when a female character (Tabitha and Solomon Grundy in the most recent episode) just beats the hell out of a male who is not even attacking or threatening her in any way, shape or form.

I'm not trying to start a big thing here, but just saying, I cannot imagine if a male character (let's say Gordon) tied a woman to a chair, and just beat her in the head with a pipe because she didn't remember who he was. You'd have every feminist group and women's activist nazi calling for the show to be cancelled today. Equality is revered, unless it doesn't result in women being in an advantageous situation.

My point is that instead of showing viewers that oh these women are "tough" or "bad-asses" or whatever cliche is used in the vein of empowerment, seems like the message is that violence against men is okay, while male against female violence is not tolerated at all, even in fictional comic book storytelling. For a show set in the Gotham universe, I'm pretty sure there are psychotic criminal men who would not think twice about attacking or killing women and succeeding at it (Joker paralyzing Batgirl for instance). We never really see that side of the coin, and it comes across as phony and pandering 'grrrl power' stuff to me when tv series' and movies do that stuff to such an excessive degree.

Just my two cents, but of course most people I'm sure will just accuse me of being a misogynistic woman hater. Sigh.

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@A-Dubya said:

I love how on not just this show, but in seemingly all comic related shows and/or movies, the female characters ALWAYS have to get the upper hand on male characters.

So if you love it , then what's the problem?

It's not just them being portrayed as inherently smarter than men in almost every scenario,

So it's the truth that bothers you?

but the fact that it is perfectly fine and often played up as comedy when a female character (Tabitha and Solomon Grundy in the most recent episode) just beats the hell out of a male who is not even attacking or threatening her in any way, shape or form.

sob baby_tone1

I'm not trying to start a big thing here,

Yes. You are.

but just saying, I cannot imagine if a male character (let's say Gordon) tied a woman to a chair, and just beat her in the head with a pipe because she didn't remember who he was. You'd have every feminist group and women's activist nazi calling for the show to be cancelled today. Equality is revered, unless it doesn't result in women being in an advantageous situation.

rolling_eyes seriously dude. you don't see what is wrong with this?

My point is that instead of showing viewers that oh these women are "tough" or "bad-asses" or whatever cliche is used in the vein of empowerment, seems like the message is that violence against men is okay, while male against female violence is not tolerated at all, even in fictional comic book storytelling. For a show set in the Gotham universe, I'm pretty sure there are psychotic criminal men who would not think twice about attacking or killing women and succeeding at it (Joker paralyzing Batgirl for instance). We never really see that side of the coin, and it comes across as phony and pandering 'grrrl power' stuff to me when tv series' and movies do that stuff to such an excessive degree.

So...what. GRRRL POWER nail_care_tone2

Just my two cents, but of course most people I'm sure will just accuse me of being a misogynistic woman hater. Sigh.

We get get it- you want to see men kicking womens ass es / beating them up.

Yep...misogynistic woman hater. thumbsdown

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