Discuss Better Call Saul

How would you have ended this show?

Would you have a similar ending or something completely different? It seems already knowing Jimmy/Saul makes it to the BB universe which takes place after BCS that really took the worry or stress away of killing him off or any one else who appears in BB right?

Should Saul have thrown himself under the bus/come clean or should Saul have took the much better 7 year deal? Or should Saul have gotten away completely again?

It seems some viewers pointed out that if Saul went the 7 year deal, he'd still be miserable since he had no family, no wife, no kids, etc. that would also be his issue if he escaped prison time again right?

I guess at least with Saul locked up for 88 years it pretty much solidifies him as dying and spending the rest of his life in prison because he's probably about what late 40's to early 50's so there no chance in hell he'd be alive at like age 138 when he gets out.

It was pretty cool Kim visited him one last time in prison maybe he got some play at least or better she visits him time to time and he gets a conjugal visit? I think it was interesting to see that he was admired, popular and even protected in prison, so maybe that was implying that he himself was a hero and looked up to by all the other prisoners. So that may have been his only sense of family or respect that he truly gets in life?

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I think the creators of the show really got swayed by all the fans. All the fans kept voicing : KIM BETTER NOT DIE!!!! through out the entire show each season. This also pretty much swayed the producers/writers of The Walking Dead, once they found out Daryl was their most favorite character, it became clear they were not going to ever kill him off, so its like whats the point then why even care if we know he's never going to get killed or seriously hurt even?

One of the biggest compelling benefits of this show BCS was we never knew what the F happens to Kim since shes not seen in BB at all, but again I think the producers/writers really got swayed about all the YOU BETTER NOT KILL KIM drama.

I personally like Kim, shes probably one of the best characters in both the BB and BCS universe, definitely one of the best female ones, as many of the other female characters are just awful I mean look at the wives of Walter White and Hank's wife those women were awful human beings. I remember WW's wife cheating on him several times(I think when he had cancer too right?), yet WW himself never cheated on her once and he pretty much did his entire Blue Sky empire to take care of her and WW Jr. and thats how she repays him by cheating on him. Not sure if Hank's wife cheated on him, but I remember seeing a few scenes where she pretty much is also an awful Karen as well.

But yeah with all that said, I think maybe they should have killed off Kim and that be the main reason why Saul goes full dark criminal.

You are right in that Kim is definitely in love with Jimmy, you can see it even in their final scenes. I don't think though that your idea of them going to the police would resolve that situation for Mike and his crew were all on top of them before they could even come up for air.

Also it seems the police and even the legal system were just inferior to Saul/Kim and the Cartel in terms of outsmarting and just getting away with everything. It was like Saul/Kim and Mike and his crew were all on a brand new 2022 iPhone 13 and the cops, and other lawyers were all using 1997 AOL 56K modem dial up.

I just finished watching Season 6 last night, and it ended not too far from how I thought it would:

I remember, back on the old IMDB, many thought Kim would die some horrific crime-related death, partly because, she was not seen in Breaking Bad. But, my own prediction was, she would either die in a random, non-gang related way, such as a random car accident, leaving Jimmy/Saul the jaded man we see in Breaking Bad, OR, she would simply get fed up with Saul and move away.

Which (that second one) is basically what ended up happening-- although, rightly, she blamed herself just as much as she blamed Saul. As for the rest:

I thought the ending of Better Call Saul was satisfactory, if not spectacular. It was clear that most of the characters in the Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad universes were not happy with their life choices, and as much as many of us fans might have on some level liked to see them "get away with it", I was happy with the personal closure Jimmy and Kim found, coming clean about the things they had done.

As others on these boards have pointed out, Jimmy/Saul is not really going to suffer in prison, as the other prisoners seem to admire him, and Kim had the benefit of unloading her conscience without actually having to go to prison. So, both of their fates could have been much worse. Personally, I think Jimmy could even have his sentence reduced later on, so that just maybe, at the very end of his life in his 80s, he might get just a few years of freedom on this Earth before he passes. Who knows? Perhaps decades from now in the BCS/Breaking Bad universe, Jimmy and Kim will meet for a quiet early morning coffee at a Denny's somewhere:)

Random thought--

The episode "Point and Shoot", with its shocking depiction of Howard's death, was just some phenomenal "peak" television work. Too often, when a character emotionally close to other characters is killed, the reactions of those around them seem unrealistic, almost flippant. But Jimmy and Kim seemed utterly, convincingly, absolutely horrified. Great job on the actors Bob Odenkirk and Rhea Seehorn in the way they conveyed this. My heart was breaking for them.

Better Call Saul-- great television, better than many, many movies.

@northcoast said:

I just finished watching Season 6 last night, and it ended not too far from how I thought it would:

I remember, back on the old IMDB, many thought Kim would die some horrific crime-related death, partly because, she was not seen in Breaking Bad. But, my own prediction was, she would either die in a random, non-gang related way, such as a random car accident, leaving Jimmy/Saul the jaded man we see in Breaking Bad, OR, she would simply get fed up with Saul and move away.

Which (that second one) is basically what ended up happening-- although, rightly, she blamed herself just as much as she blamed Saul. As for the rest:

I thought the ending of Better Call Saul was satisfactory, if not spectacular. It was clear that most of the characters in the Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad universes were not happy with their life choices, and as much as many of us fans might have on some level liked to see them "get away with it", I was happy with the personal closure Jimmy and Kim found, coming clean about the things they had done.

As others on these boards have pointed out, Jimmy/Saul is not really going to suffer in prison, as the other prisoners seem to admire him, and Kim had the benefit of unloading her conscience without actually having to go to prison. So, both of their fates could have been much worse. Personally, I think Jimmy could even have his sentence reduced later on, so that just maybe, at the very end of his life in his 80s, he might get just a few years of freedom on this Earth before he passes. Who knows? Perhaps decades from now in the BCS/Breaking Bad universe, Jimmy and Kim will meet for a quiet early morning coffee at a Denny's somewhere:)

Random thought--

The episode "Point and Shoot", with its shocking depiction of Howard's death, was just some phenomenal "peak" television work. Too often, when a character emotionally close to other characters is killed, the reactions of those around them seem unrealistic, almost flippant. But Jimmy and Kim seemed utterly, convincingly, absolutely horrified. Great job on the actors Bob Odenkirk and Rhea Seehorn in the way they conveyed this. My heart was breaking for them.

Better Call Saul-- great television, better than many, many movies.

Yes totally agree BCS is one of the greatest shows ever on tv! I personally liked it better than BB even. I think in short Saul/Jimmy really did truly love Kim and him taking the fall for her is the most noble selfless thing he can do for her and he of course did that.

Yea I agree the scene where Howard gets killed right in front of them really is just REAL and you can see both Bob and Rhea really are giving it their all in these performances. It probably is why Bob ended up getting a heart attack right in the middle of shooting because these scenes were so damn intense! Did we ever find out the exact scene that caused Bob to have a heart attack? Imagine if it was this scene???!!!

Finally I think its just a real shame that BCS never received any awards from the awards shows, where Breaking Bad would clean up awards shows each year consistently. Perhaps thats a reflection of the over all public did not watch BCS in the masses as they did BB???

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