Oh come on, we already know that Discovery and Picard are both crap. But here we're talking about GOOD shows, like DS9 and Threshold!

But things in the universe going faster than light are impossible if there are phenomena that exceed that speed the news would be all over it since it would be the discovery of the century ,

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be another case of mistaken measurements. But if it turns out that some particles with what might be zero mass, can go SLIGHTLY faster than light, perhaps greatly faster in the first milliseconds of the universe when maybe gravity as we know it didn't exist, so what? We're not mass-less, and gravity DOES exist NOW.

When in doubt use a wormhole. Wormholes can take you anywhere.

@Invidia said:

You forgot about that DEVICE that enables the BORG QUEEN and others who use it to INSTANTLY TRAVEL DISTANCES of 40,000 LIGHT YEARS (which was also suppose to be used in TOS).

The WIKIPEDIA link also talks about what happens after Ep 13 of THRESHOLD (even though those eppy's were never aired).

That may be so but when you detect a source from 40,000 lightyears the signal one detects was still send 40,000 yearss ago so it doesn't matter how fast one can get there one wil always arrive 40,000 years + after the signal was send.

You still don't get it yes lightyear is a measure of distrance and sure in Star trek we can travel faster than light but that is not what I was talking about I said If you record a signal coming from a source 40,000 lightyears away the signal to reach your destination took 40,000 years to get there since that signal travels at the speed of light.Hence now matter how fast you travel it stil doesn't matter because one will always reach the source of cet signal 40,000years + later.

You do know that when a star goes supernova that it sheds most of it's mass in that explosion? So the blast of a supernova consist of mass therefore it cannot travel faster than the speed of light.In fact so much mass and energy is released in the explosion that havier elements are formed.And even at speeds faster than light it will still take the shockwave years to reach neighbouring starsystems.Blastwaves just don't go at warpspeed.And the whole premise of Romulus'sun going Supernova seems a bit farfetched since that would mean the Romulan would have knowingly colonised a planet around a Red giant star with the knowledge it could go supernova at any moment not a very suitable place to colonise it seems and Romulans don't come upon me as being stupid since Romulans are basically Vulcans who decided to go their own way and settle on some other planet and develop a scociety they wanted.A planet around a Red Giant is the last place one would settle.

Hypernovas usually aren't caused by your average red giant only very large and heavy stars go hypernova downside of the big size and large mass is that they usually have a short lifespan too short for a potential planet orbitting it to develop life let alone the vegetation and complex lifeforms to support a colony.

The big bang and supernovas or hypernovas are nothing alike The big Bang was and is still the largest explosion ever and the processes after the big bang are nothing like supernovas or hypernovas the forces at work during the big bang are incomprehesible compared to a mere supernova we are taling about the formation of matter itself here not just some mere forming of various elements in a giant thermonuclear furnace.

All nice and well but that has nothing to do with a star going supernova which is part of the story not the deeper physics behind the big bang.

But what the Hell has that got to do with a supernova? And the destructive power of such an event ? Nothing . The highly theoretical existence of particles moving faster than the speed of light depends on one critical factor the mass(or better the lack of mass of cet particle)and since in supernova explosions most of the mass of a star gets blown into space it seems highly unlikely that such particles would be formed under such conditions and if they do their effect would be like x-rays or light reaching the planet they would behave like neutrino's they would go straight through that planet causing little to no harm.But like I previously said even if the destructive wave moves at the speed of light or slightly faster(we are not talking about particles moving faster than twice the speed of light here)it would still take the shockwave years to reach the nearest star system.

Considering energy decays as to the CUBE of the distance traveled, I'm not sure even a supernova's remnants would be dangerous after traveling light-years.

Again what does Supernovas and Big Bangs have to do with the elemental physics of distances and time it takes for a signal from 40,000 lightyears to reach the point from which it was observed.NOTHING INVIDIA you only brought this shit up so you can claim that the writers of new Trek know their science which they clearly don't.

So much gobbledygook... Maybe the easiest way to get out of all this mess is to simply point out that it doesn't matter if "primordial soup particles" can exceed the speed of light. If you're sending a signal via radio waves, or light or whatever, that's not "primordial soup particles" and hence cannot exceed the speed of light. Which means that if you send a signal to someone from 40,000 light-years away, by the time they receive it, 40,000 years will have passed. If they then, upon receiving the signal, were somehow able to get to the location the signal was sent from, INSTANTANEOUSLY, they would still be 40,000 years too late.

Even if a particle and this is a very big IF it really can it wouldn't move very much faster than the speed of light so the assesment that one could outrun the blastwave at warp speed is still accurate