I don't know either, but the whole thing is ticking me off.

SPOILER THOUGH:

I was angry that they recast Dom's character because Brian Dennehy was perfect in the role. But now they've just killed him off anyway? Why not just have killed him off during the break and come back and say he was too sick and died? I know, I know, because then his secrets would have died with him.

But beyond it all, what the fuck was the point of bringing the show back for all of TWO episodes now, just to break it off AGAIN and not bring it back until the END of January!? The whole thing is just pissing me off. I've watched this show FAITHFULLY from Day 1. I've stuck it out through all the bullshit shark jumping, and the lame writing, mainly because I'm a Spader fan.

Keen didn't irritate me in the beginning, but like many, I'm sick of her now. So now that what's happened has happened and she's going to go after Red (again), sorry, but I'm rooting for Red, and I hope he has no choice in the end but to kill her. Let her mother in-law or whomever she is raise Agnes (the kid annoys me anyway. I hate when shows drag babies and kids into things to try and boost ratings).

I wish I could say I'm done with this show, but I've seen it through this far, so I need to watch it until the end now. I just hope that this IS going to be the last season. Maybe that's why they're dragging the episodes out this long?

I think the Katarina conclusion was supposed to be the original season finale for the previous season before covid hit. Covid hit, they had to do that semi-cartoon ep, then wait till they could finish out what was already in the can (as in scripts, locations, etc). I think that's why we got the conclusion and now have to wait till the end of January for it to pick back up. The January ep is what would have been the actual season premiere.

But yeah, in addition to what you (Satai Delenn) said...I remember that when Liz faked her death (remember she see-saws between Red is the devil that needs to be escaped from, and Red is the best friend ever), Red was hell bent on clearing her name posthumously. To the point that he blackmailed a sitting president to do so. She successfully faked her death to the point it fooled even Red, so she could see how he'd react in her absence, and that's what he did.

How none of that matters to her its at this point preposterous. Red came into her life because, certain people from her past were going to come into it anyway. He was trying to position himself to curtail that as best as he could. She forgets that too.

She's a villain at this point. She supported this strange woman who, lets say she was 100% her mom, she's still a murderer who wouldn't have done half of what Red has done for her. She murdered two police men, who was shown [to the audience] were decent men, and whose job was actually to protect Liz. Killed them in cold blod. Does their families not deserve justice?

She played all these people in her lives, the Task Force, Harold, played Donald for a simp, for what? She's determined to prove Red isn't a good guy evidence to the contrary be damned ? I really despise Liz at this point. And to be honest with you as much as I love Spader seeing Red is starting to not be enough if it will always be opposite this flaky jackass.

Ugh. Anyway, I'm guessing that Dom in his delirium said the truth to Liz, but its something only Red and Katarina understood. This show is borderlline sci-fi as it is, so somehow the archive is Liz. Two parts (Red and Katarina) made the whole (Liz). Not sure how, but I'm sure when it's explained it'll be quite silly.

Rodimus, if I could like your comment above 50 times, I would.

(remember she see-saws between Red is the devil that needs to be escaped from, and Red is the best friend ever)

That bit is so old, and so hard to take seriously. Keen accepts what her murderous mom says without question, without evidence, contrary to evidence and logic. Why? Because she postures as a wronged victim?

And she cannot recall the blood he has shed protecting her, or the many times he has traded his life for hers, or else none of that matters because he has secrets he cannot share with her. She knows why he didn't tell her the truth about her dad, because when she shot Tom Connelly her memory of the event came back to her. And that time she told Red she knew why he kept the truth from her. But now she is back to being this psycho-bitch who insists on knowing every secret Red has, or else he is the devil. She told him

If you hurt my mom, then whatever we have, whatever this is, is over.

Red should have told her

I have done my best for you, kept you safe, kept you alive, stopped the cabal from killing you, and set you up for life. If you want to write me off, I just hope you can find someone who is able to protect you going forward. Goodbye.

Keen asked Ressler for more medical help for Dom because he was close to death. Why not take him to an emergency room then? Oh yeah. Because she isn't done questioning him. She isn't concerned with his welfare, as she pretends she is, she just wants to postpone his death so she can question him longer.

Hell, Red went to try to help Katarina. He loved her, and she tortured him nearly to death. She kills without compunction and doesn't care who she kills, as you pointed out. She murdered those agents who were watching out for Keen. Katarina has made it clear that her loyalty to her daughter is contingent upon Keen helping her with her plans. Keen is the enemy, and Cooper and the task force can go take a flying leap. They blame Red for all the crap Keen does, stuff he doesn't want her to do. With some twisted logic they manage to blame Red for everything bad that happens. If I were him, I would pack my bags and leave them all behind.

Partial review of last episode, with liberties taken.

Ressler arrives and finds Red sitting beside Dom lying dead in Katarina's lair.

You can try to spread the blame around all you want, but this is on you. Keen was looking for answers that you have. If anyone is responsible for this man's death, it's you. You insist on keeping personal secrets, and you know how curious she is.

You had to know that if you didn't tell her your secrets that she would kill her grandfather. Hell, what else could she do?

I am placing you under arrest.

Red

What law are you saying I broke here?

Ressler

Felony withholding of personal secrets resulting in a federal agent conspiring with a fugitive from justice to kidnap her own grandfather, resulting in his death.

Red

Sounds like you just made that up.

Ressler

So what if I did? I am an FBI agent, and you're just an informant, so I outrank you, and I don't like you.

Red

What about Keen?

Ressler

She had no choice. You made her do this. That is the official narrative, and what the news release to the press will say.

Red

Donald, I don't think I will let you arrest me today.

Later Keen and Dembe talk and she says that Red

has killed everyone I've ever cared about: my father,

(true, though he was terminal and close to death),

my husband

(not true, that was all Tom and the dirty cop who killed him),

my grandfather

(not true, Keen herself played the biggest role in killing her grandfather when she kidnapped him).

How can anyone take her seriously? Oh yeah, Red wants to keep some things secret, so Keen is forced to break laws, endanger lives, and betray all those closest to her. Because she really has no choice, it's all Red's fault.

Not only does Keen posture as an innocent victim in all this, but the task force joins her in shifting all blame onto Red. I thought they were supposed to follow the law. But they seem to be making up their own laws using twisted logic.

Then Keen turns on Dembe

I thought you might influence his behavior, to make him better. But now I know you're just as evil as he is.

Dembe

Shouldn't there be someone in your life to influence you and help prevent you from doing evil things?

Keen

I am not evil! Red keeps secrets from me, which forces me to do evil things! It is all his fault! I AM THE INNOCENT, OFFENDED, INJURED VICTIM HERE. Stop holding me responsible for the bad things I do. Everything is Reddington's fault. And don't forget it!

Dembe

Pfft

Keen cries

I'm done.

(God, I wish that were true.)

I can't fight him anymore.

(whatever that means) Then she elbows Dembe grabs the keys, fakes him out, and steals the car. Dembe should have just broken the glass and re entered the car, but he let her go. Guess he didn't want her to get cut by flying glass, but frankly I would not have cared.

So Red shoots Katarina in front of Keen as she runs toward her. But Kat had called Keens phone and there was a recording of what they talked about, where she called him M13.

Well, they will be after Red now. I imagine his days as a consultant are over. He would only work with Keen, and now she won't work with him, in fact she wants to kill him. Of course.

Keen has some mental malfunction. Her default setting is as an injured victim, innocent and wronged. Once in a while Red moves heaven and earth to save her life, and she starts to think he might be OK. Then she asks him something and he says he can't talk about that. And in that instant she switches to her default position with a fury.

OMFG, Write2topcat! I am in stitches reading your dialogue! Can you go write for the show? Your writing is much more entertaining than the current writers' is, lol.

Anyway, a thought literally JUST popped into my head about Keen and Katarina. Yeah, Katarina is/was a cold-hearted bitch sort of shaped by her circumstances and those she THOUGHT had betrayed her. Notice how Keen is becoming the same way? It's all her own doing, just as it was Katarina's own doing which shaped who she became, but both blame everyone around them instead of looking to themselves. So, does this mean that Agnes is going to grow up to become just like them? Or is there hope that she'll break the cycle? My hope is that if she's raised by her grandmother, that her grandmother will be honest enough with her to talk about Keen and the things she did, and maybe why, and try and help Agnes grow into a stable, self-sufficient woman who is able to trust, and also stay out of police work and maybe just get a desk job somewhere, lol.

And yeah, why Red continues to try and protect her, and willed her all his money, etc., despite her behavior to him and everyone else, I will never understand. She does not deserve his loyalty.

Whether Red is her bio dad is beside the point this late in the game. What is the point, is that Red sees her as a daughter, irregardless of whether she sees him as a dad.

So the question then becomes, at what point does the parent let the child go? The problem is in Red's mind, the answer is "never."

The disconnect is, parents typically let a rebellious child hit rock bottom if they're not otherwise listening. Cause helping them while they're doing something stupid can turn into enabling them. If they know they have a safety net every time they fall, why would they stop putting themselves in a position to fall?

I feel like there's a story there and could perhaps make up for the years of Liz flip-flopping regarding Red. But they writers will never do it.

Notice how Keen is becoming the same way? It's all her own doing, just as it was Katarina's own doing which shaped who she became, but both blame everyone around them instead of looking to themselves.

Yeah. Exactly. Does it seem to anyone else that the writers of modern shows tend to create lots of characters like this? Why is that? We know they tend to appeal to the younger audiences because they spend the most money, so young audiences help them sell advertising slots. So do they think young people relate to these characters? Young people are less mature, in general, but that doesn't mean they must be irresponsible. It seems to me the writers are appealing to the most base part of human nature by making Keen the victim.

I don't think they will ever make Keen bear the responsibility for the bad stuff she does. Hell, the task force doesn't think it's her fault that she lied to everyone at the FBI, conspired with a fugitive from justice, kidnapped an elderly sick man and put him under so much stress that he died.

"Well, it was for your mom, so of course you had to do it. Besides, Red kept secrets from you. That bastard."

It is getting to be silly now. That's why I make up my own dialogue. I have to make fun of them because it pisses me off if I take it all seriously.

Keen finally showed up and told Cooper that Red killed Katarina.

Are you sure? Did you see him kill her?

Keen

Yes, I saw him shoot her twice in the chest. He executed her.

Cooper

Whew, I can call off the manhunt for Katarina now, thank goodness.

Keen

What?

Cooper

I'm responsible for our budget and those manhunts are actually pretty expensive. Thanks for letting me know she is finally dead.

Keen

She was my mother!

Cooper

Come on. Katarina was a piece of shit. She had been circling the bowl for far too long.

I often don't agree with Red, but Katarina getting a couple of bullets was long overdue.

Keen

I can't believe you! My mother was forced to hide and commit crimes because of Reddington. It's Reddington's fault, because he keeps secrets.

Cooper

Again with the secrets shit?

Keen

It's true! He said I had to wait to open my birthday present, he wouldn't even tell me what it was. That bastard. I shot my neighbor from the stress. And that was Red's fault! Plus, he shot my mother.

Cooper

Katarina was a spy, she committed multiple kidnappings, and tortured several people that we know about, and murdered many innocent people.

Keen

That was different. She only tortured and killed lots of innocent people so she could spend quality time with me. Plus, she thought they were keeping secrets.

I can't believe you're relieved my mother is dead.

Cooper

This is good for you because now I can hide the fact that Katarina convinced you to lie to the FBI, kidnap your grandfather, withhold medical treatment from him, and torture him to death.

Keen

But he was keeping secrets.

Besides, I called Ressler and asked for a first aid kit.

Cooper

You only wanted to extend his life a little longer so you could continue to torture him. If you wanted to save him you would have taken him to the emergency room.

But I can sweep this under the rug now since Katarina is dead and put all the blame on her.

Keen

OH YEAH. Another MAN is saving me. I am SO tired of men thinking they need to save me. Do you all even stop to think that maybe I don't want to be saved?

Cooper

No, we have never thought that, primarily because you acted like you wanted to be saved.

You said things like, "Help! Save me!", and "I don't want to die", and "please don't let the hitman kill me".

Keen (rolling her eyes and looking away)

Huff

That is SO misogynistic! I thought you were woke.

I can't handle this. I am going to take some personal time, and I don't know if I will be back...

(Keen waits for Cooper to tell her he hopes she will come back, gets impatient with the silence and goes on)

I only came by to steal something from Mr. Tofu boy so I can continue my personal war against the chief secret keeper in my life: Reddington!

This is my main reason for watching The Blacklist now; I like to make fun of Keen. I used to be a bit perplexed at her unstable and irrational swings between loving Red and then switching in an instant to hating him, feeling betrayed over some inferred slight. But her character on the show has degenerated into a severely pathological criminal with a perpetual sense of moral outrage. If she acts offended and claims to be injured, it seems she can justify whatever actions she takes, and she can condemn the most benign actions of others.

write2topcat, that "another man telling me what to do" crap that came out of her mouth, AFTER Harold told her she's looking at kidnapping charges, has me firmly convinced she is the villain of the season. There is otherwise no reason to neither watch her nor root for her against Red. At this point Liz is a spoiled brat throwing a temper tantrum. She has zero moral center at this point (sorry writers but Liz caring about her daughter doesn't make this somehow not true) and she doesn't even have any redeeming qualties at this point (again, sorry writers, loving her daughter doesn't count). She freely and fully manipulates those around her with no thought whatsoever as to anything even resembling repercussions (stealing Aram's pad, screwing Ressler). And to be fair, why should she? She's surrounded by men, including Red, that seem hell bent on cleaning up after her. That's why that comment to Cooper is so ironic. She would have been dead 10 times over if all that men "telling her what to do" finally said "Cool from this point on you're on your own". And if the writers are hell bent on this "women are good even when they're evil and men are evil even when they're good" nonsense, you'd think the lawyer she turned would have been FEMALE. But wait, that's just her using a man's evil nature against him so nevermind (seriously that just occurred to me and is consistant with the current tone now. Sigh.)

So men's only job is to clean up after a hard headed woman seems to be the message here. Women can do anything including fuck up their lives, men you can't stop them DURING the fucking up of their lives or even offer advice THAT they're fucking up, otherwise you're a misogynist. But, you damn well better be there when she finally and completely fucks up to shield her from any consequences. You know, the consequences you'd face alone with no help if you were the one who fucked up your life not her.

Damn this is some bullshit and it already got renewed early for another season (you can thank Netflix for that) so this could be the new norm for all we know for the foreseeable future. I want to watch Red not whatever this is.

That's why that comment to Cooper is so ironic. She would have been dead 10 times over if all that men "telling her what to do" finally said "Cool from this point on you're on your own".

Ain't that the truth. Frankly I was surprised she came out and made that "It's because I'm a woman" comment. They usually don't make any overt feminist comments in this show. It's one think I like about it. Most shows, once they become popular, seem to become vehicles for pushing favored special agendas. This one has mostly stayed away from overtly going there.

But they have certainly been very strong on this Liz can do no wrong and Red is to blame for everything kick for a long time now. But even so, after the bit where she kidnapped Dom, forcefully questioned and stressed him til he died, I was shocked at how the team ignored Liz lying to them, kidnapping their asset, and conspiring with a wanted fugitive from justice, and blamed it all on Red, I was shocked. That was so far over the top it was a joke. They all acted like it was understandable that Keen had done this, and it was really Red's fault for being secretive, leaving Keen no choice.

You know secrets about her childhood, and you refuse to share them, so this is all your fault

was their position. They were a little upset that Keen had lied and kidnapped and broken laws, but not enough to make her write "I will not kidnap" on the blackboard 50 times or anything. If she will just say she is sorry that will be plenty good. Unbelievable.

I just watched the scene where Keen sneaks into the post office while on the run so she can pick up her daughter, and here we see another unreal sequence, this one involving Aram.

Aram, the feckless, Aram, the spineless, Aram the enabler. Aram, the eunuch.

When Keen entered the post office to get her daughter, only Aram was there.

Aram knew Keen had swiped in, but he didn't grab his gun. He didn't grab his handcuffs, and when Keen entered, he made no effort to stop her. He had told her on the phone when last they spoke that he would arrest her when next he saw her. Now when he has the chance, he pretends he is morally confused. Aram stands there and allows Keen to leave, making absolutely NO effort to impede her. He doesn't even say "wait", or try to slow her by engaging her in conversation.

Will he try to explain his inaction by saying "But it was Keen"? He has already made the point that he doesn't know who she is anymore.

She committed an act of terrorism by stealing 16 ounces of semtex from the FBI and creating a remote controlled bomb and had it placed in a hospital. She detonated it, not knowing who else may have been in the room. There might have been nurses or doctors inside the room.

Aram knows this. But he let her go without moving a finger to try to stop or even slow her down.

For the first several seasons Aram was so afraid of his firearm he trembled the one time he had to actually use it when the post office was breached by that team sent there to capture Reddington. . When a terrorist was enroute to destroy a nuclear power plant and cause a meltdown which Cooper estimated would result in a million deaths from the fallout, only Aram could stop the man. He hacked into the avionics for the helicopter and was prepared to disable the power plant and crash the helicopter, but he stopped. He said "but this will cause the death of the terrorist. I have killed one man. I cannot kill another." Cooper had to actually push the enter key to stop the terrorist.

Aram could not crash a helicopter with a terrorist in it in order to save a million lives because it would kill the terrorist.

After Keen kidnapped, tortured, and killed her grandfather, Aram didn't hold Keen responsible, because Keen was very curious.

And now he won't raise a finger to arrest Keen after she detonated a pound of Semtex, a high brisance explosive, in a hospital

Aram should not be an FBI agent. He should be a civilian employee or a consultant, not an agent.

Spoilers ahead

I just noticed The Blacklist is back and saw episodes 3 and 4 on youtube with phone.

Keen going after Red is understandable, he killed her mother and she witnessed the crime. ( NB: she did have many opportunities to have Katerina arrested, though ..she would be still alive had she done so .her mother was a cold-blooded killer after all)

That said, I just don’t see how she could be the mastermind that will bring him down and kill him when others far more capable have failed.

I know when it comes to Keen,RR doesn’t think straight but still.. Dembe is there to make him reason and protect him.

In her intent to kill Red in hospital, she nearly killed Ressler.. not to talk about possible staff members .. she is no better than her mother.

When she betrayed RR and he nearly finished getting a lethal injection, he should have stopped caring about her and gone back in the shadows.

The other problem I have is with Keen and Ressler .. for years many have been hoping that the two would hook up .. I just thought how it was done left a bad taste in my mouth ..

We know Keen has feelings for Ressler and she knows Ressler feels for her.

Nevertheless, I couldn’t help feeling that in part she slept with Ressler as a way to ensure Ressler’s total alliance... she knows once she sleeps with him he will be totally committed to her no matter what because he has already broken the law many times to help her .. she used his feelings for her to her advantage.. she is manipulating him .

Last issue..

Who is Red? I really haven’t given it much thought .. I just hope RR doesn’t turn out to be her father because I don’t see any valid/logic reason for not telling her donkey years ago if that is the case.

At this point Liz is a spoiled brat throwing a temper tantrum. She has zero moral center at this point

Rodimus, I agree. She has been on a steady, downward spiral for some time now. And she justifies it all by posturing as an injured victim of Reddington's secretive nature. Unbelievable.

She trained in law enforcement. But Reddington has knowledge about her past and chooses to keep some of it private, and she pretends this has forced her to forsake her oath and her commitment to law enforcement. She has broken multiple laws, multiple times. And they are serious offenses. She kidnapped two people I can recall, and both of them died as a result. She has repeatedly lied to the FBI, betrayed them and sabotaged an operation while working with a Russian spy and serial murderer. She stole a military grade explosive and committed attempted murder in an indiscriminate manner by detonating the bomb inside a hospital. That is just the most recent stuff.

And the excuse she gives for doing all this stuff is that Reddington refuses to tell her all his secrets. Well, the excuse for the bomb was that he killed Katarina. But he should get an award from Nobel for that.

The sickening thing is that the task force so often sides with Keen, as when she kidnapped Dom and refused to give him the medical care he needed while she interrogated him, leading to his death. The team all blamed Reddington for that. What the hell? Perhaps the writers figured out they had gone too far that time because this time they didn't act like she was justified after she blew up the hospital.

But even so, Ressler gave her a free day, slept with her, and gave her a head start before "coming after her". lol. And then Aram refused to lift a finger to stop her when she came by the post office. He did express his disappointment. He just wasn't disappointed enough to arrest her. Even Cooper, upon learning of this, told them he was glad he had not seen her so he didn't have to arrest her. These people are unfit for duty. But Cooper said he didn't want anyone else "going after one of our own".

Does she really have feelings for Ressler, or anyone other than Agnes? I think she just manipulates Ressler. She certainly manipulates Aram.

I don't see how the writers will be able to explain Red's attachment to Keen at this point. Even if he were her father, that cannot explain why he would continue to defend her.

Keen is an irredeemable sociopath. She has long ceased to be a sympathetic character.

@sunshine62 said:

Spoilers ahead

I just noticed The Blacklist is back and saw episodes 3 and 4 on youtube with phone.

Keen going after Red is understandable, he killed her mother and she witnessed the crime. ( NB: she did have many opportunities to have Katerina arrested, though ..she would be still alive had she done so .her mother was a cold-blooded killer after all)

What's ironic about this is Keen constantly says she hates being strung along with the truth being dangled in front of her like a carrot on a stick. I mean, my words, but she basically hates Red keeping secrets. Katarina keeping secrets though, well that's just fine. She told Keen it will all make sense when Keen questioned her about those two FBI agents (Keen's protection detail in fact) that Katarina had killed.

That also makes Keen a hypocrite. Katarina deserves justice but those FBI agents do not apparently? Cooper himself said, I think the number was, 48, 48 people that they know of that Katarina killed. Keen herself knows of those two. No justice for them I guess.

That said, I just don’t see how she could be the mastermind that will bring him down and kill him when others far more capable have failed.

The writing is weird in that it seems to be the direction they're going, yes...but everyone is helping her ie not turning on her (the Task Force) and Red not leaving her to her own devices. And she knows this, she even told Red his weakness is he won't ever lift a finger to hurt her. She's not doing this in spite of obstacles, there are no obstacles and its not realistic. I know a lot of this show is borderline sci-fi, but we've seen for instance Red struggle with his only support being Dembe. Just the two of them against the world in some instances. Here is Keen against the world, with the world helping her. Its silly.

Nevertheless, I couldn’t help feeling that in part she slept with Ressler as a way to ensure Ressler’s total alliance... she knows once she sleeps with him he will be totally committed to her no matter what because he has already broken the law many times to help her .. she used his feelings for her to her advantage.. she is manipulating him .

Yes. That's exactly what she's doing and exactly WHY she's doing it. She is a horrible human being. I don't like the idea that someone can be this evil and everyone excuse them because of a third party. That's not real how life works. Heck that's not how the Blacklist works, they've busted plenty of Blacklisters who did what they were doing because mommy or daddy or a loved one didn't give them what they want.

I feel like the underlying issue, though, is that of all the crimes Keen has committed, as long as its not outright murder they'll keep trying to save her from herself. Dom was mitigating circumstances (or at least that could be argued in court), the hospital bomb, criminal negligence resulting in manslaughter* (if people were there/got killed). But if Keen, for instance, killed a protection detail like Katarina did, maybe they'd treat her like the criminal she is. Maybe

Last issue..

Who is Red? I really haven’t given it much thought .. I just hope RR doesn’t turn out to be her father because I don’t see any valid/logic reason for not telling her donkey years ago if that is the case.

We gave up on that a long time ago. Maybe he's Red pretending to be Ilyad pretending to be Red? lol

I'm more concerned if that was really Katarina or not. For the top of her class Keen doesn't believe in verification for some reason. If Red is a fake why is Katarina the real deal?

• = Edited to add: I was talking about how it would be argued in court against being outright murder. But in and of itself, bombing a hospital should be a career-ender for anyone. Its a terrorist act, period, regardless of whether people were there or not.

Nevertheless, I couldn’t help feeling that in part she slept with Ressler as a way to ensure Ressler’s total alliance... she knows once she sleeps with him he will be totally committed to her no matter what because he has already broken the law many times to help her .. she used his feelings for her to her advantage.. she is manipulating him .

Yes. That's exactly what she's doing and exactly WHY she's doing it. She is a horrible human being.

I agree with you guys on this too.

all the crimes Keen has committed, as long as its not outright murder they'll keep trying to save her from herself.

Yep. They are worse about giving her a pass now than ever before. They hardly act like the FBI anymore. When Keen shot the Attorney General they went after her because they had to. But in that case, with the AG being part of that cabal, they knew why she did it. Now Keen is simply seeking to commit murder.

I don't know the law, but I am guessing the bomb in the hospital would probably fall under terrorism statutes. Semtex is a high brisance military grade explosive and they said she used 16 ounces of it. Cooper opined that Keen calculated the amount to kill the people in that room, something like that. Bullshit. The pressure wave would have hit everyone on that floor. But even if it were only enough to kill the people in that room, Keen had no way of knowing who might have been in that room besides Red, and she was fine with killing all of them to get Red.

Nevertheless, the task force seems willing to let her off with a few demerits or something.

she basically hates Red keeping secrets. Katarina keeping secrets though, well that's just fine.

Bingo. Plus, she would buy almost anything Katarina said without question and without checking it.

That also makes Keen a hypocrite.

Indeed. And so does Keen's habit of keeping secrets from Red. Keen wants a one way street on honesty and candidness. If you won't tell her your favorite color she has a meltdown and feels deeply wounded, and vows revenge. But she considers it her prerogative to lie to Red or anyone else when she feels like it. Because she thinks her reasons for withholding information, or even for lying, are valid and justifiable, but nobody else's reasons are good enough.

@write2topcat said:

I don't know the law, but I am guessing the bomb in the hospital would probably fall under terrorism statutes.

Yeah that's why I added the addendum. I was specifically talking about the mental gymnatics they (the Task Force) are using in regards to Keen's attempted murder/how it would be argued against attempted murder in court. But beyond that it is a terrorist act and at the least should cost her her job, at the most her freedom.

Semtex is a high brisance military grade explosive and they said she used 16 ounces of it. Cooper opined that Keen calculated the amount to kill the people in that room, something like that. *Bullshit. *

That "bullshit" made me laugh out lout. lol Its funny cause its true, she's a mathematical genius and bomb expert now?

The pressure wave would have hit everyone on that floor. But even if it were only enough to kill the people in that room,** Keen had no way of knowing who might have been in that room besides Red, and she was fine with killing all of them to get Red. **

Nurses come in at set time, yes, but also, randomly , to check vitals. I guess their deaths would have been Red's fault too.