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While the ep had some good scenes, really none were awful in a "man they sucked" way, but Jack being chastised for ending Nick was simply wrong. As many have stated, Mary, Sam and Dean (and even Cas) have killed more people and many less monstrous than Nick (remember the girl who was bit by a werewolf and was turning yet was no monster or threat? Sam wanted to save her, Dean said she couldn't be. He killed her off screen as the episode faded on Sam's stricken face). Okay roasting Nick was extreme but people have done worse to people in the name of God and for king. So? Mary had no moral authority to badger Jack.

Is she done for? The word on next ep seems to be no. Or maybe the brothers will think she took off again to be with new Bobby. On foot. In the snow. I dunno...

I'd be surprised if Jack returned to the bunker. He does not need anyone there. He is the most powerful creature on earth (unless Cas gets God to pop in). What does he need two humans and an angel for??

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Haven't seen the episode yet. I just got a new 4K TV, computer & router, so I 'm setting them up tomorrow. I'll probably watch it this weekend.

But hooray for Jack (if it's true that he is dead), did not like Lucy/Nick or the actor.

@bratface said:

Haven't seen the episode yet. I just got a new 4K TV, computer & router, so I 'm setting them up tomorrow. I'll probably watch it this weekend.

But hooray for Jack (if it's true that he is dead), did not like Lucy/Nick or the actor.

I thought Mark, the actor playing Lucifer, did a fine job. Lucy? You mean the mother Mary? She was okay but not a staple of the show. I never thought Jack was either and when he got sick and nearly died I did not care. But now that he's a bit bats**t and at full power I like him!

And this who0le "having a soul makes you good" or something is a throwback to Buffy and Angel. No soul no good. People are more complicated than that.

@Oldnewbie said:

@bratface said:

Haven't seen the episode yet. I just got a new 4K TV, computer & router, so I 'm setting them up tomorrow. I'll probably watch it this weekend.

But hooray for Jack (if it's true that he is dead), did not like Lucy/Nick or the actor.

I thought Mark, the actor playing Lucifer, did a fine job. Lucy? You mean the mother Mary? She was okay but not a staple of the show. I never thought Jack was either and when he got sick and nearly died I did not care. But now that he's a bit bats**t and at full power I like him!

And this who0le "having a soul makes you good" or something is a throwback to Buffy and Angel. No soul no good. People are more complicated than that.

Lucy = Lucifer.

I like Jack, I really feel sorry for him. Basically he is still a 'toddler', hasn't been around/alive long enough to learn how to controls his feelings/urges. Even a normal adult would have trouble.

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