They are 18 and 20, so yes. They are home from college. Most colleges in our state are doing this.

I think it will probably be months.

I don't know, but viruses don't care about economies.

I live in the Puget Sound area where most of the deaths have occurred albeit most were in a nursing home so were already immune-compromised. So I'm just a bit more careful than usual.

I suspect there are thousands more cases out there (many of them mild) that just haven't been diagnosed because doctors offices aren't able to test for it or people haven't even gone to the doctor for it, meaning that the mortality rate is actually lower than what we've been told. It's way too soon to know anything concrete.

@Invidia said:

I'm in TX. It's not here yet, but BIG CITIES like SAN ANTONIO and HOUSTON already have it and HOUSTON's also SHUT DOWN SCHOOLS because of it.

A man on the RACHEL MADDOW show from the NY TIMES just described what they did in CHINA to contain the virus. EVERYONE gets their temperature taken, and if it's high you get sent to a gymnasium or other area where you're confined because they also say 70 to 80% of contaminations take place in FAMILIES.

Then the NURSE that's assigned to you if you test positive gets you up and dancing (because that's also good for your lungs and helps to clear them).

But in ITALY the doctors have to CHOSE who will LIVE and who will die, so if you're a young mom who has KIDS she gets to live whereas GRANDMA gets to die.

And the GUEST on Rachel's show also said that we're heading for the same situation that's taking place in ITALY.

And Others also say we'll reach that point in another 7 to 9 days from now.

Sounds a little like fear mongering.

@Invidia said:

Remember when people were having MAJOR HISSY FITS back when the GOVERNMENT was SHUT DOWN because the SCAM MAN wanted CONGRESS to PAY for HIS WALL???

People couldn't get into the MUSEUMS in DC, or visit the other MEMORIALS, and they were plenty pissed about it.

Yet here we are again with the SAME PLACES SHUT DOWN again and not a PEEP is being made about it???

Let's not forget that while some actual federally-funded museums etc were closed last year, during the Obama "shut-downs" they actually spent MORE money to "close" places that were outdoors and open to the public: setting up barricades and etc, and paying for guards to NOT let people just see things that are out in the open. The Obama "shut-downs" were engineered to cause maximum inconvenience to tourists, etc, even when it actually cost MORE than having them "open."

@Lemons said:

@Invidia said:

I'm in TX. It's not here yet, but BIG CITIES like SAN ANTONIO and HOUSTON already have it and HOUSTON's also SHUT DOWN SCHOOLS because of it.

A man on the RACHEL MADDOW show from the NY TIMES just described what they did in CHINA to contain the virus. EVERYONE gets their temperature taken, and if it's high you get sent to a gymnasium or other area where you're confined because they also say 70 to 80% of contaminations take place in FAMILIES.

Then the NURSE that's assigned to you if you test positive gets you up and dancing (because that's also good for your lungs and helps to clear them).

But in ITALY the doctors have to CHOSE who will LIVE and who will die, so if you're a young mom who has KIDS she gets to live whereas GRANDMA gets to die.

And the GUEST on Rachel's show also said that we're heading for the same situation that's taking place in ITALY.

And Others also say we'll reach that point in another 7 to 9 days from now.

Sounds a little like fear mongering.

That's also what you get from socialized medicine: scarcity, and rationing.

Which is why Italy has perhaps the worst problem, at least so far, because of their awful private medical systems?

Sure, sure.

And if you think Medicare For All would be a great idea, check to see how well the people who have Medicare NOW are doing. And then add in how many doctors would get out of the field, how many hospitals would close, etc, when Medicare For All tells them "Okay, we're going to start paying you 15% or 20% of what it really costs, for EVERYONE."

Oh, and you know who WOULDN'T have Medicare For All?

President Sanders.

Starting Monday the 16th all schools (public & private) in 3 counties (King, Pierce and Snohomish) will be closed until April 24th. This affects about 600,000 students. The mayor of my city has declared an 'emergency'.

I like touch other people's faces.👉😛

@Invidia said:

Actually NO I don't think Bernie's PLAN is a good idea because it would also mean an INCREASE of 20 to 35% in pay roll taxes for the MIDDLE CLASS to pay for it (which also means it's NOT POSSIBLE to have it).

And so your rationale for supporting a candidate whose single most identifiable goal you recognize to be impossible, is.... what?

And IRONICALLY the reason why ITALY is in WORSE SHAPE than CHINA is because it's a FREE SOCIETY whereas CHINA is NOT, and CHINA BEING more STRICT with their POPULATION is what has SAVED IT and put it in better shape now than they would be otherwise.

Because when given the FREEDOM to SELF REGULATE oneself people DON'T DO IT as well as when they have the RULES FORCED UPON THEM.

You sound like Thomas Friedman. Sadly.

And I also have MEDICARE and have been doing FINE.

And the DOCTORS (ALL FEMALE) who run their BRAND NEW CLINIC are also doing FINE TOO.

And One night the place was also LIT UP with PINK PORCH LIGHTS which was also a NICE TOUCH as well.

And don't worry, because they also EXCEPT MALE PATIENTS there as well.

Your brilliance shines through, as usual.

The only reason Medicare can exist, and somewhat work, is because MOST people DON'T have Medicare. And even at that, many clinics/doctors don't accept Medicare patients, or don't accept any more than they already have, because they LOSE MONEY on them.

For starters, Medicare Advantage is not the same as regular Medicare. And I did say that doctors might accept NO MORE Medicare patients than they ALREADY HAVE. And some do accept NONE AT ALL, especially in certain fields which Medicare patients might need, but can't get because Medicare doesn't cover it, or because the specialists don't accept Medicare patients because the reimbursement rate is too low.

Also, many people over 65 DO NOT rely solely on Medicare, because they have other insurance via their previous employers, or unions, or what-not. And in addition, not many doctors base their whole practice on seniors to start with. Those that do, would still have to balance Medicare patients with those whose insurance coverage - or self-payments - balance out the rest.

If there are 480,000 primary care doctors in the US, and 93% accept Medicare patients, that means 33,600 DON'T. And like I said, the rest may accept only a certain number, so if they're already at that number, if you as a Medicare patient apply to them, you will be turned down. Because they can't afford to lose money on any more patients than they already do. So if you insist on seeing THAT DOCTOR, you'll have to wait until another of their Medicare patients... "leaves"... one way or another.

(P.S. You can't out-argue me on this. My mother and one uncle are retired RNs, and my MD brother has owned and operated a family clinic, employing more than a dozen people, for over 30 years.)

That isn't the point. Too bad you don't see it.

But by all means, let's hear more medical and finance facts from Ms Literature Degree!

My brother is very hands-on at his clinic, and while my mother and uncle didn't handle hospital billing officially themselves, they heard and saw plenty, including from administrators and patients and their families.

And it's sad you apparently don't realize that doctors can't afford to lose money any more than anyone else can afford to spend more on products or services than they get from their customers. Pizza Hut can't stay in business selling pizzas for $2 if they cost $3 to make, especially if the people making them have to be paid at least $15/hour, no matter how nice it might be if everyone could get pizza for $2, or even free. And my brother can't have an office, pay for nurses, etc, if it depends on Medicare which pays less for it than it costs. It has nothing to do with lack of compassion or anything else. If my brother doesn't HAVE an office, and equipment, nurses, etc, he can't take care of ANYONE.

On whatever news show I was watching last night, they showed a picture, taken within the last seven days, of Trump, at some convention or meeting, standing with four or so people - one who has announced he (that person - who was pictured standing immediately next to Trump) now has Covid-19.

If I were any politician or celebrity, and over age 70 or so, daily in groups of random people (particularly if shaking a lot of hands of general-public strangers), I'd be very paranoid, as all it takes is close contact with one person who's carrying C-19 (what I've been calling it) to spread the germ to you.

A doctor on yesterday's news stated that it's not yet been determined how long the coronavirus germ remains active on something that a carrier has had recent contact with - though current feeling is that it could be up to 48 hours or so (possibly, some experts suspect, multiple days longer). That's why they're saying to, even when at home and if not around others, to thoroughly wash hands, anew, after touching/handling anything (such as during meal prep handling produce [that many people may have touched while it was on display in the store], canned goods, jars, and/or boxes or bags of whatever) that you know was brought into the home during the last half-week.