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Is anyone following the "Roseanne Barr" debacle?

Turns out that "loose lips" not only sink ships; they also get shows cancelled--even top-rated ones.

What, 200-300 people out of a job-- JustLikeThat! They are all probably thinking: Where is a “sheep dip” when you need one!

No doubt Whitney Cummings is somewhere lighting candles and thanking her lucky stars that she "slipped-through-the-exit" before all of this went down.

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I always thought Whitney might be a bit... vexed?... that the show she only co-created/wrote/etc, "2 Broke Girls," GREATLY outlasted the show that she starred in herself, "Whitney.":

GOOD.The show didn't need to come back and she's a racist prick.

All because she couldn't keep her trap shut on twitter.

@Knixon said:

I always thought Whitney might be a bit... vexed?... that the show she only co-created/wrote/etc, "2 Broke Girls," GREATLY outlasted the show that she starred in herself, "Whitney.":

I'm thinking more likely "disappointed" than "vexed".

She knows that just getting it "green lit" was a major accomplishment. Considering how unpredictable this business can be, doubt if she is a stranger to strapping on her Big-Girl boots in the face of adverse outcomes. She probably wouldn't have survived a NY-minute in ShowBizLand if she bugged out over every downturn.

@CalabrianQueen said:

GOOD.The show didn't need to come back and she's a racist prick.

All because she couldn't keep her trap shut on twitter.

TPTB knew that-bed-was-on-fire when they sat down on it.

Guessing, they were hoping against hope that being “resurrected from the dead” would be enough to keep her in line—obviously not.

She has a history of "crazy" and hard to deal with from the beginning. If she wasn't canned now she would have continued giving reasons to get rid of her. So a sitcom was cancelled. Not the first time not the last.

And I don't know if it really hurts the other people working on the show, that much. Camera operators, etc. ABC will need another show to fill that half hour, and that show will need camera operators, etc.

@znexyish said:

She has a history of "crazy" and hard to deal with from the beginning. If she wasn't canned now she would have continued giving reasons to get rid of her. So a sitcom was cancelled. Not the first time not the last.

Downplay it if you must; but, let’s face it”...

--A sitcom getting cancelled = BAU.

--A top-rated, big-ticket sitcom getting cancelled = NEWS.

@Knixon said:

And I don't know if it really hurts the other people working on the show, that much. Camera operators, etc. ABC will need another show to fill that half hour, and that show will need camera operators, etc.

Then you haven't been following the story....

It's basically a case of talent recycling. Unless ABC is planning to run a test pattern in that half-hour time slot, another show will be made that will need writers, camera operators, all that stuff. If the people working on Roseanne don't get THOSE jobs, there will be more new shows coming down the road that need writers, camera operators...

@Knixon said:

It's basically a case of talent recycling. Unless ABC is planning to run a test pattern in that half-hour time slot, another show will be made that will need writers, camera operators, all that stuff. If the people working on Roseanne don't get THOSE jobs, there will be more new shows coming down the road that need writers, camera operators...

I'm not talking in general I'm talking specific to this situation. Finite number of shows; finite number of jobs. People turned down jobs on other shows in favor of jobs on "Roseanne". Considering that those other shows, same as Roseanne, had to get about the business of getting people to sign on the dotted line, just what percentage of those other jobs do you think are still out there?

Anyway, from the LATimes (5/31/18)...

"The sitcom’s cancellation came the first day when “Roseanne” writers and other staff had reconvened to plan the second season. Many shows have already staffed up for the upcoming TV season, which could make it difficult for laid-off crew members to find replacement work. “That's a real big problem. The timing couldn't be worse to do this kind of thing,” Moriana added."

ABC could just pull a "Two and a Half Men" and continue without her. Change the show to "The Conners" or "Darlene" .

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@Knixon said:

It's basically a case of talent recycling. Unless ABC is planning to run a test pattern in that half-hour time slot, another show will be made that will need writers, camera operators, all that stuff. If the people working on Roseanne don't get THOSE jobs, there will be more new shows coming down the road that need writers, camera operators...

I'm not talking in general I'm talking specific to this situation. Finite number of shows; finite number of jobs. People turned down jobs on other shows in favor of jobs on "Roseanne". Considering that those other shows, same as Roseanne, had to get about the business of getting people to sign on the dotted line, just what percentage of those other jobs do you think are still out there?

Anyway, from the LATimes (5/31/18)...

"The sitcom’s cancellation came the first day when “Roseanne” writers and other staff had reconvened to plan the second season. Many shows have already staffed up for the upcoming TV season, which could make it difficult for laid-off crew members to find replacement work. “That's a real big problem. The timing couldn't be worse to do this kind of thing,” Moriana added."

Some of those new shows will get cancelled too, and these days probably rather quickly. What about all THOSE people? At least the Roseanne people got to work on a full season already. But this is also a rather standard thing in the world, especially in the more recent economy over the past few decades where people can no longer expect to or plan on working for the same place for most of their life. I just can't feel any special sympathy for showbiz folks over any others who suddenly lose their job and have trouble finding another.

@znexyish said:

ABC could just pull a "Two and a Half Men" and continue without her. Change the show to "The Conners" or "Darlene" .

Possible.

I've read discussions re: same on other sites—a few other shows where the lead was replaced were also mentioned. Only thing is, none of those shows were cancelled first.

Considering the moneybag lost; the negative impact on everyone involved, and all the triumph blow-back from the public you’d have to think that ‘replacement’ would have been one of the options TPTB looked at BEFORE deciding to pull-the-plug.

Still—as you said, it could happen.

@FormerlyKnownAs said:

@znexyish said:

ABC could just pull a "Two and a Half Men" and continue without her. Change the show to "The Conners" or "Darlene" .

Possible.

I've read discussions re: same on other sites—a few other shows where the lead was replaced were also mentioned. Only thing is, none of those shows were cancelled first.

Considering the moneybag lost; the negative impact on everyone involved, and all the triumph blow-back from the public you’d have to think that ‘replacement’ would have been one of the options TPTB looked at BEFORE deciding to pull-the-plug.

Still—as you said, it could happen.

There quite a lot of articles about a possible spin off with Sara Gilbert as the focus. It is just wait and see right now.

As for Barr, she was just a train wreck waiting to happen. She caused ill will among the cast and crew with her actions that she wasn't going to remedy.

I never watched to show to begin with and don't have anything invested in it.

@znexyish said:

There quite a lot of articles about a possible spin off with Sara Gilbert as the focus. It is just wait and see right now.

Isn't one reason Sara Gilbert was rarely available even for cameos on TBBT, that she has that full-time gig doing The Talk? Monday through Friday? I doubt she would leave it, that's been a steady job for a long time.

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