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Crisis on Earth X
posted by Horus MazingaSTAFFMOD on November 29, 2017 at 1:36 PM
I'm an old comics salt. I used to love the occasional team up between the JLA and JSA for a "Crisis on Earth ____" and eventually the bigger Crisis events. That is what brought me back to watch this. I dropped Arrow after season 3. I only ever stayed with the ill-conceived drama for the flashbacks, well-done action sequences, and quality production value. After the erosion of quality in the flashbacks and the constant "You lied to me" used to connect plot points, I had had enough. Then I see a big Crisis crossover and I'm lured back.
Overall I'm disappointed. 3/10
What I liked:
- King Shark fight with Flash
- Nazi Tommy scene
- The Nazi aesthetic in general (evil bastards but always a sharp look)
- Atom's arrival
- The large fight scenes *
- The base plot of Ubbergirl needing Kara's heart
- Nice to see so many Superheroes together on a TV show. Looked great.
What I didn't like:
- The good guys' "tough" monologues were pathetic
- Gay Snart isn't best Snart
- Writers too fixated on gay drama (felt like it belonged on Logo instead)
- *Nazi soldiers with guns advance to melee range
- Each hero fights their counterpart instead of smart tactics
- Laser vision stops laser vision (this is an ubiquitous problem in capeshit)
- Falling a mile into someone's arms instead of the dirt is minus 100% damage
- Pretty much everything else
Full disclosure: I fast forwarded through every single scene with Iris and most of Felicity. I liked Felicity in season one ... that's it.
Could have been much better. Seemed a lot worse than I even remember. Same show runner since the start right? Across all four shows? They need to bump him down to assistant writer and hire someone with a more sophisticated pen.
Reply by Innovator
on November 29, 2017 at 3:27 PM
I actually hoped that this Crisis would have finally merged the Supergirl and Arrowverse worlds like the DC Crisis comics normally do. But, now instead I'm now curious about the Earth 1 Kara that was mentioned.
Reply by Horus Mazinga
on November 29, 2017 at 8:01 PM
They did. Kara Zor-El is Supergirl's name. All four shows on CW are in the same universe.
It was only Crisis on Infinite Earths that actually merged multiple universes. Before it there were just yearly (aprox) JLA/JSA team-ups to deal with some emergency on a different Earth. Crisis on Earth Prime for instance was to thwart an alien invasion on the Earth where superheroes don't even exist (our universe). Since Crisis on Infinite Earths, the Crisis events have been cross-overs in between all the comics stories that tended to abuse the casual collector. They finally beat the horse to death a many years ago.
Reply by Innovator
on November 29, 2017 at 8:41 PM
Supergirl's Earth-38 and the Arrowverse's Earth-1 are still different worlds. They crossover via dimensional portal, so they're not technically the same universe yet. The DC Crisis titled comics are DCs way of merging storylines that don't fit together well (calling them happening on different Earths) and taking only the story arcs they like and putting together to make 1 cannon Earth, and tossing the rest. They do so now almost every other year (cause DC can't get their shit straight) so comic collectors have become meh about it these days cause it happens so often.
DC's comic gameplan:
Just keep throwing darts at storyboards and see what sticks.
Take what sticks and call it cannon (using a Crisis event), and toss the rest.
Replay.
I'd say Marvel does better, but Marvel is starting to go with the same strategy.
Reply by Horus Mazinga
on November 30, 2017 at 2:28 PM
Ah! I see. I erroneously assumed that once Supergirl was acquired by CW that it was automatically within the Arrow setting. Kinda shocked that they didn't do that. I watched one episode each of Supergirl and LoT just to see if they were different than Arrow and Flash (which I had dropped) LoT seemed like more of the same level of quality and Supergirl was somehow worse to me so I didn't get the the whole Earth 38 angle.
My monthly comics habit has had very little DC in it for years now. DC makes mistakes and then even bigger mistakes trying to fix them. I agree that Marvel is starting to feel the same way. My monthly pull shrinks more and more. I think my Marvel titles are fewer in number currently (I'm shocked to realize this right now). The current state of comic books is a sad one. There was a new golden age that only ended around four years or so ago.
Reply by GForce59
on December 1, 2017 at 1:59 PM
It sounds like they're taking advice from Captain Cold:
I found it funny that Citizen Cold/Snart-X found this to be utterly ridiculous. :)
Reply by gspgreases
on December 25, 2017 at 12:33 PM
Arrow s5 was maybe the best season of the show.