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I know he was clearly a bad guy who richly deserved his fate, but it didn't create the same sense of satisfaction as the demise of characters like Joffrey or Ramsay or Myranda. For one thing, he was one of the smartest characters on the entire series, and I always felt that part of the show's pragmatic, cynical philosophy was that people like him are the ones most likely to survive in the GoT universe. In a way I thought of him as Martin's ideal vision of the character with the best understanding of how to "play the game of thrones." Ironically, a lot of the things he says are very good advice; he's like the Yoda of sociopaths.

I wonder if it was ever Martin's plan for him to die in the book series.

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I, for one, will not. Although he appeared to be a conniving mastermind - I found him to be a sniveling man boy who never got over the fact that he wasn't born into a "house". His attachment to all things Cat (and female) was bothersome. It is as if he made all of Westeros pay for his unrequited love. I don't know if you will get the reference but to me ... he was always an evil Frank Burns (M*A*S*H), never an attractive character.

I am also glad that finally, someone of honor (Sansa) was able to call out a dishonorable person and .... well, dispatch him. I was afraid that Sansa had fallen into the trap - phew, I loved her speech!

No. He was an intriguing character in the first couple of seasons, always one step ahead of the game in the same way that Varys appears to be. But he has long since deteriorated into moustache-twirling villain, sneaking around and hiding in corners and whispering in ears. I found his final scene fully satisfying.

Glad it's over but I feel it was kinda pathetic how his story ended...after what he did in earlier seasons like unique kind of villain, never know what he's plotting. It's sad that his final days was trying to make sisters fight lol very high school compared to when he was at kings landing.

@lmao7 said:

Glad it's over but I feel it was kinda pathetic how his story ended...after what he did in earlier seasons like unique kind of villain, never know what he's plotting. It's sad that his final days was trying to make sisters fight lol very high school compared to when he was at kings landing.

I kind of see what you mean. He was one of my most hated characters on the show along with Cersei, but I agree that the way he went down was not worthy of his character. He's a little more sophisticated than that, getting caught in between sisters in the high school corridors. As much as I wanted Arya to get him, I will miss his character at this stage, unexpectedly, in that he was one of the better actors left remaining.

Interesting that after all of his conniving at court, he was defeated by two girls. Probably, once he was away from his brothels in King's Landing, his lust for Sansa got the better of him.

I'll miss him, he was one of my favorite characters. If someone had to die, I would have voted for Euron.

I kept wishing Jaime or Jon or someone would chop his head off when he was bullying Tyrion. (Not that I care about Tyrion; I just loathe Euron).

I'm wondering what will happen when Robyn Arryn finds out? He loved Littlefinger; will he withdraw the Vale knights from the north? Unless, of course, they just don't tell him how Littlefinger died.

@CharlesTheBold said:

Interesting that after all of his conniving at court, he was defeated by two girls. Probably, once he was away from his brothels in King's Landing, his lust for Sansa got the better of him.

Two girls and a 3ER.

@PANDJY said:

I, for one, will not. Although he appeared to be a conniving mastermind - I found him to be a sniveling man boy who never got over the fact that he wasn't born into a "house". His attachment to all things Cat (and female) was bothersome. It is as if he made all of Westeros pay for his unrequited love. I don't know if you will get the reference but to me ... he was always an evil Frank Burns (M*A*S*H), never an attractive character.

I am also glad that finally, someone of honor (Sansa) was able to call out a dishonorable person and .... well, dispatch him. I was afraid that Sansa had fallen into the trap - phew, I loved her speech!

I feel the same way. There really no need for his character anymore given the larger events going on now. Littlefinger was really a creature of Kings Landing he was more in his element there in the earlier seasons.

@MangeSkeevesOutKlam said:

His death was anticlimactic. They should have flayed him.

Yeah, a flogging for Littlefinger would have been epic.

I will miss him he was a very good character, also it was a stupid way for him to die, he is the lord protector of the vale, with the vale army in the room and they are just going to stand by while he gets murdered? yeah right and what happened to trial by combat? It goes against the established rules the show has set

The Vale people were probably fed up with a "protector" who spent all his time in Winterfell, apparently trying to woo Sansa. He was chosen protector only because he had been married to the local Lady ( for a week) and was not a native to whom they felt much loyalty. Sansa arranged for the Vale army to hear the charges (including murdering the real Lord and Lady) , and this isn't a culture that believes in "innocent until proven guilty". Demanding trial by combat was futile because Sansa's champion would be Arya, and Littlefinger knew that that the girl would win.

Of course there were irregularities in the trial. Sansa covered up her letter and the fact that she had perjured herself over her aunt's murder. But "during a war the laws on silent" ( Latin proverb that was used as an episode title on DEEP SPACE 9), and Littlefinger had probably taught Sansa that.

Littlefinger is very rich he could have hired someone to fight for him, i mean fuck he could probably have got the mountain to fight for him if he wrote to cersei (probably not the mountain as i doubt cersei would let her bodyguard go up north but he could certainly hire some warrior to fight for him)

You remember what happened in the Vale in the first season, how Tyrion requested to send for his brother Jaime to fight for him, and Lysa just swatted aside the request and demanded that the fight happen right then and there. I don't see any reason why Sansa wouldn't have had the same reaction had LF made a comparable request. Indeed, the fact that they engaged in no formal execution ceremony, that they had Arya just go up to him and slaughter him, shows they were intent on getting rid of him and weren't going to allow even some medieval version of due process to stand in their way.

yes and then tyrion hired bronn, i see no reason why something similar couldnt have happened with littlefinger seems strange to me that littlefinger didnt have one person loyal to him there

The situations were different. Lysa was baths!t insane, the people around her knew it, and Tyrion had some ability to shame her into upholding at least some standards of justice. Furthermore, he had already befriended and charmed Bronn.

In contrast, despite some skepticism Sansa had built up a great deal of respect among the people around her. Furthermore, nobody liked LF. Everyone recognized him as a manipulative bastard, and she and Arya built up a much more convincing case against him than the HIGHLY tenuous and circumstantial case that was built against Tyrion in Season 1.

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