Personally I just want the best show possible but...
Dany seems to be turning into a royal bîtch. bend the knee this. bend the knee that. Join me or die. Sounding more and more like the people she started out hating.
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Contestado por Innovator
el 21 de agosto de 2017 a las 14:56
People also forget that Dany was willing to consider sending them to the Wall, and they refused it. So they actually had 3 options. Dany just wasn't willing to make prisoners of her enemies, because if she takes one prisoner her enemies will always take that option and she would end up looking as bad as the slavers to her people. By killing the two she solved her problem and didn't have to kill anymore than necessary.
Contestado por RCH2288
el 21 de agosto de 2017 a las 16:10
and on top of Jon's master plan, his whole reason for even seeking out Dany in the first place was to ask if he could have some dragon glass because he knows it can help defeat the WW......but did that bearded douchebag even take any with him on this stupid preposterous version of grabbing a dead Wight aka like the dead guy in Weekend at Bernies to take to Cersei?....(Weekend at Westeros) No.....apparently not. Jon Snow really does no nothing. Ygritte called it way back when.
Contestado por spreerod1538
el 21 de agosto de 2017 a las 17:15
I thought Jorah was fighting with dragon glass, maybe I'm wrong. I didn't think his weapons were steel, but were darker. Jon didn't need to because he has Long claw.
Contestado por RCH2288
el 21 de agosto de 2017 a las 19:04
besides their weapons...they should have sewn the dragon glass into their clothing and worn it like glittering party dust
Contestado por Oldnewbie
el 22 de agosto de 2017 a las 14:45
Jon's actions in that episode bothered me throughout. Only ten men to face an army made up of hundreds of thousands of dead people who no doubt have some kind of telepathic link to their master. Thinking he could walk in, grab one, and walk out unnoticed was just plain old hubris combined with a smidgen of stupidity. The only ten men is what really bothered me most. (I give him some allowance for desperation - desperate people make illogical decisions.)
Then all kinds of crazy happened when they were surrounded. He sends his 'fastest runner' back to the wall and he gets there while now eight men are fighting off a horde of WW. And he makes it while the battle rages and it is still day time so wow he has to be The Flash of the ancient mythical world! Then the raven is also on hyper drive as it arrives at Dany's and she zooms off with all three of her kids in tow in and arrives in time during the apparent same battle to save the day!
Funniest moment was Jon yelling "Fall back!" I shouted at the TV "Fall back where? Your surrounded!" And really I never talk to my TV!
Then in his delirium on board ship he "bends the knee" to Dany forgetting that the other leaders of the North are not going to go along with his decision. If it was out of gratitude for being saved, he then should have handed the north to Littlefinger! Bolton would have done him in for good if not for the Veil\Vale.
Aside from all that, I hate that Dany lost a dragon and the WW now have one on their side.
Oh and do they really think Cerci will be accommodating even in the face of a dead man?
Over all a disappointing episode in a season of very good to excellent episodes.
Contestado por CharlesTheBold
el 22 de agosto de 2017 a las 16:13
"Then in his delirium on board ship he "bends the knee" to Dany forgetting that the other leaders of the North are not going to go along with his decision."
The Northern lords were already debating revoking Jon's title and transferring his power to Sansa. (Arya thought Sansa was even TRYING to take over). The North isn't a divine-right monarchy. It's one where the electors choose who the best leader would be, and if the leader fails they're likely to choose somebody else..
Contestado por RCH2288
el 22 de agosto de 2017 a las 16:58
maybe Jon should drop that Wight off in Winterfell first to show them what they are up against and why they need to unite with Dany and bend the knee since she has the dragons. Let it run around there and take out a few of the northern lords that are hung up on who should be leading them. Hell, put it in Littlefingers room with him.
Contestado por Mirabel
el 23 de agosto de 2017 a las 07:26
I'd love to see that! Much better than the way it will unfold.
Maybe capturing a wight was a bad idea (though it was actually Tyrion's idea, not Jon's) but what else would convince people the threat wasn't a fantasy? And I could see going in with only a few men- easier than trying to move an army, and what else would be sufficient numbers? They probably hoped to pick off a straggler, or something like that. and get in and out without anyone noticing.
Contestado por Neuronhead
el 24 de agosto de 2017 a las 06:20
"Freer of Slaves"... "Serve me or I'll kill you". As long as they're not her slaves or anything though.
Contestado por illnagas
el 24 de agosto de 2017 a las 06:28
People keep saying this but don't forget Dany herself opened the negotiations with that extreme offer. She put herself in a position where she couldn't back down.
Contestado por Jana
el 24 de agosto de 2017 a las 08:26
Don't forget all those kids who had to pay the price for Meereen. But yeah, she brought the Great Masters to justice. An eye for an eye right? She's hot blooded and sometimes doesn't see the difference between vengeance and justice. I've got love for Dany and I think she'll make a great queen, as long as she's surrounded by men and women who will guide her. IF she stays humble enough to listen.
Contestado por Leo of Red Keep
el 24 de agosto de 2017 a las 08:40
She won't listen. The show's made a point this season of showing exactly that: she's disregarding everyone's advice after that old murderous hag told her to ignore "clever men".
Contestado por Ask Me Anything
el 24 de agosto de 2017 a las 11:16
Lol "murderous old hag"? You mean the one responsible for killing one of the most hated characters on the show who needlessly killed Ned Stark? That murderous old hag deserves a medal and a statue.
Personally I think Dany's growth is coming along fine. She listened to Tyrion and got outplayed by Cersei. She listened to Olenna and became a dragon while also listening to Jon who talked her out of sacking Kings Landing and got her first major victory. She takes listens to everyone but makes the final decision.
Tyrion told her not to go help Jon, if she had listened to him Jon and his entire party would be dead. Sure it cost her a dragon but we all knew one of her dragons was going to die this season anyway.
Contestado por CharlesTheBold
el 24 de agosto de 2017 a las 16:18
" She organized the big massacre in Winds of Winter that killed the new king's wife to be"
Margery wasn't a "wife- to-be". She and King Tommen were married, which meant that Margery outranked Cirsei, when drove Cirsei up the wall. (There was a funny scene in Season 5 where Margery baited Cirsei: "So what's your title now? The Queen Dowager?" In the same scene she was exchanging girl talk with her ladies-in-waiting about her wedding night.
Contestado por CharlesTheBold
el 24 de agosto de 2017 a las 16:23
"but did that bearded douchebag even take any with him on this stupid preposterous version of grabbing a dead Wight No.....apparently not. "
Yes he did. During the first fight his opponent exploded, just like Sam's opponent exploded back in season 2.