Item: Season 1
Language: en-US
Type of Problem: Incorrect_content
Extra Details: Someone has split S01E04 Montendo/Lifedeath (1) into two episodes across S01E04/E05. This aired as one episode and needs combining again.
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Reply by Vivienb
on April 3, 2024 at 1:38 PM
Yes, please stop doing this… why you split episode for no reason…
Reply by andcbii
on April 3, 2024 at 2:00 PM
Disney+ has it listed as one episode.
Here's a screen shot: https://res.cloudinary.com/dkyd429md/image/upload/v1712167186/Forums/TMDB/Screenshot_2024-04-03_125751_eewkxh.png
Reply by dokuro
on April 3, 2024 at 4:27 PM
I'm also wondering why the moderator split theses. It's seems wrong and I'm hoping they can respond as to why they made this change.
Reply by raze464
on April 3, 2024 at 9:42 PM
The episode is made up of two distinct stories: Motendo and Lifedeath Part 1. They were split according to TMDB's segment rules:
Reply by Vivienb
on April 4, 2024 at 1:54 AM
It’s no reason.
Again and again you will have lots of dissatisfaction because you are wrong. Once again you are the only ones to make this stupid choice.
Reply by ineffable_tmdb
on April 4, 2024 at 4:23 AM
Does the API indicate it's split? This is difficult to untangle and seems to be inconsistently applied. For example, the Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episodes are not split even when they are distinct. The ToH mini-episodes are distinct stories, have even different writers (they have distinct pre/post credits sequences even), but are not split in the TMDB.
Reply by dokuro
on April 4, 2024 at 4:45 AM
Thanks, I can see the logic now as to why the change was made. One additional point of clarification, that rules related to kids cartoons (TV-Y7) etc. This show has a 14+ disney rating in europe and it could be argued this is not a "kids" cartoon and outside of this specific rule.
Reply by ineffable_tmdb
on April 4, 2024 at 4:52 AM
Also one last note, this does cause concordance issues with external databases, TMDB doesn't allow an episode to share an IMDB or TVDB with another episode (in this case, the other part). This makes automated data validation a bit more difficult.
Reply by Lloyd Davis
on April 4, 2024 at 5:34 AM
You guys are so inconsistent when logic is called for. What happened to the "we follow the broadcaster" rule? Everywhere, and I mean EVERWHERE else that lists episodes of TV has this listed as one episode.
As ineffable_tmdb states, this rule doesn't seem to apply to The Simpsons Treehouse of Horrors episodes, and they are more definitively segmented. And as dokuro states, this is hardly a "kids" cartoon.
There has to be some sort of logic applied. You literally have the whole world saying "this is one episode", and you've decided "meh, we want it to be two". Please just follow the "Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season)." rule.
Reply by MrOrange88
on April 4, 2024 at 5:39 AM
Absolutely ridiculous rule, especially when it's listed as a single episode on Disney+. What are you lot smoking?
Also, this doesn't follow your rules as it wasn't released individually.
Reply by superboy97
on April 4, 2024 at 6:05 AM
The Simpson's Treehouse of Horror episodes are not split because they have one single title
This rule apply when the episode title is compound with the segments titles like it's the case here.
Every segmented episodes were listed as a single episode by their broadcaster at the time of the original release.
That follow our rules as this rule is in place to take in account the possibility of a separate release in the future.
Reply by MrOrange88
on April 4, 2024 at 6:07 AM
But it's listed as a single episode on D+. You can't choose what segment to watch, as it's a single episode.
Reply by MrOrange88
on April 4, 2024 at 6:26 AM
This site, the mods, and the rules are a joke.
Reply by Lloyd Davis
on April 4, 2024 at 7:07 AM
What gets me about the segment rules is - "As with multi-segment cartoons, episodes formed of two or more distinct segments should be split so that each segment is an episode. While not ideal, the main reason for the split is that segments are often paired differently in subsequent releases." which really is moot when you consider the very first rule on the page states "Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season)." Subsequent releases shouldn't matter if you go with the original release. Or am I missing something?
Reply by dokuro
on April 4, 2024 at 7:17 AM
I've also never understood this part of the bible. Surely the core rule (some might say, the one rule to rule them all) is Episodes should be added exactly as they first aired on the original network (title, date, order, season). Once proof (evidence of this) is provided it should trump everything else. Also, subsequent releases, what does that even mean when you consider the first aired rule ?
Anyhow, as always I'll just accept the decision made by the mods and move on. Their decision is final, enough said :-(