Are they multi segment episodes? Because we add the segments split for kid cartoons.

Oh ok thank you for your response :) I understand, here in France episodes are not segmented as they are in the US version ! Do you know if TMDB provides a way to handle both segmentations according to the country ? Thank you have a good day !

AH i took a better look and it Seems that the last half of season one is also added as the first half of season two.

One of Both is wrong. But i need to look deeper into that before any deleting ;p

Ok thank you :) Once this is done I put the french translations for the episodes :)

@alltimemarr If you can't confirm the original season split, I think it would probably be safer to add them as one season.

Yeah, I agree. Seems like it aired in syndication... so there's no way to know for sure. We should list it in the treat for Travis to merge, (and renumber properly). The episodes are now in the correct order, but the numbering is off. There are some gaps. I also fixed the airdates.

Hi guys, any news on the segmenting issue? I think adding a separate season for the French segmenting would be a reasonable option, what do you think? The issue is very well illustrated by comparing the English and French Wikipedia entry for this show. At present the segmenting here seems to match the English Wikipedia entry.

Or perhaps creating a separate series for the French segmenting would be a cleaner option?

Hi @p1xel ! What do you mean by 'segmenting issue'?

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In "Voyage dans le temps", according to this, they travel 65 millions years back in time in a spaceship-like time machine invented by Freddy back to when dinosaurs walked the earth. They split up, meet some cute baby triceratops and come face-to-face with a T-Rex. The episode seems to be made of bit and pieces of other episodes though. For example, the parts with Casey and Rocky appear to be from "In the Chips", where Casey and Rocky drift back in time to a prehistoric jungle. And the the parts with Wally and Denver appear to be from "The Misunderstading", where Denver believes he has to find a new home and his last resort is the pre-historic jungle. The 'Home Sweet Home' sign is explained away as a good luck charm in the edited French episode.

The first episode, "Denver, the Last Dino," is a double episode. I'm assuming it was split into two parts "La Naissance de Denver / Denver découvre le monde". Maybe someone can confirm my theory?

@banana_girl said:

Hi @p1xel ! What do you mean by 'segmenting issue'?

Hi Banana! Your response is much appreciated, thank you. To be honest I don't have much knowledge in Denver the last Dinosaur, I just saw it as a kid and thought of getting back to it

By "segmenting issue" I meant "different split points between English and French versions" - and if they indeed mixed and matched some parts like you said, that make things even more difficult.

At the moment I don't see a way to correctly number the 52 French episodes so that they map correctly to the original 50 English episodes. For example if I numbered the first two French parts as "S01E01 - La Naissance de Denver" and "S01E01 - Denver découvre le monde" it wouldn't work properly. So my initial thought was that maybe, the best way to work around this issue could be do duplicate the seasons and/or the TV show altogether? That's admittedly not a very elegant solution, but at least it would work :-/

A better middle ground could be if themoviedb.org supported having multiple versions of the same movie/show that could share assets. If it did, I guess it would complicate the UI but could be transparent from an API POV.

I'll hopefully have (more) time to look into this tonight... but the golden rule of adding translation is they have to match the original episodes. If the French distributor simply split "Denver, the Last Dino" into two parts, the first episode title will literally be "La Naissance de Denver / Denver découvre le monde" as per our TV guidelines. If it is another 'made up' episode, I will add both "Voyage dans le temps" and "Denver découvre le monde" to the specials and then we'll create an alternative French order with the episode group function. It's not a perfect solution, but it's better than creating a new season/TV show (unfortunately not allowed).

I watched the first two French episodes and they are indeed the original pilot split into two episodes. The first part cuts off right after the kids sneak Denver into their school gym. I added all the French titles based on this source, added "Voyage dans le temps" as a special and copied the Wikipedia order: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/10100-denver-the-last-dinosaur/episode_group/5d2e941dcaab6d5d98964773/group/5d2e94236a300b5922a391b0?language=fr-FR

@banana_girl said:

I watched the first two French episodes and they are indeed the original pilot split into two episodes. The first part cuts off right after the kids sneak Denver into their school gym. I added all the French titles based on this source, added "Voyage dans le temps" as a special and copied the Wikipedia order: https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/10100-denver-the-last-dinosaur/episode_group/5d2e941dcaab6d5d98964773/group/5d2e94236a300b5922a391b0?language=fr-FR

Hi Banana, This rocks and the list is good, thanks a lot for your help! I didn't know the "episode group" concept, I'll try pointing Kodi to the one you've created. The only remaining issue is that it requires joining Episodes 1 & 2 at the file level (if I understood it right).

Hello @Banana,

Either :

• the last episodes of season 1 (11 episodes from 14 to 24) should be moved in front of season 2 as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denver,_the_Last_Dinosaur#Episodes

• or the 2nd season episodes should be renumbered starting at 1 (they currently start at 12).

I don't know which of the 2 options is correct as I don't know where the original season split took place.

Does anyone have a source for the episode order? Every site I was looking at shows 13 episodes for season 1.