Backdrops are not queried with any language, they're only sorted by rating. Pop in and give each a / as to what you think.

Also falsely setting a no language (or any language) backdrop to another language just to "get it in view" is not done.

But, in most media players, you can manually select your favorite and thus override it. Mostly you can even upload your own image! Just for browsing on site that won't work.... but well, can't have everything! :)

Hi,

Sorry to pursue this even more...

Backdrops are not queried with any language, they're only sorted by rating. Pop in and give each a / as to what you think.

OK, I understand, but this still means a Dutch setting will get you an Italian background. And to add on to the wishlist: a vote count display per background would be nice :) Is the one that is sorted first the most popular one?

Also falsely setting a no language (or any language) backdrop to another language just to "get it in view" is not done.

Easy cowboy! :) Of course, this was just a test to determine how the website (and Kodi Artwork Downloader) would behave. I intended to undo the change... but another user beat me to it.

And in the mean time, someone already locked the language settings for all backgrounds for this movie.

But, in most media players, you can manually select your favorite and thus override it.

The website's behavior is virtual identical to media player's:

When I set nl-NL as my favorite language for the TMDB website (or on Kodi or a downloader like Artwork Downloader), it all results in the Italian background, because, as Travis has stated, the most popular gets returned. And in this case, there exists no specific Dutch background. I tested with Kodi: it returns the Italian one. Even after waiting half a day for the TMDB API cache to get refreshed.

Mostly you can even upload your own image! Just for browsing on site that won't work.... but well, can't have everything! :)

I would argue, that the collection that is there is perfectly fine. No need to add a fabricated (?) one with Dutch text on it.

And that suggestion would pollute the database even more then willingly setting the language of another user's background. I.e. everyone would potentially upload redundant textless or fabricated backgrounds and set their desired language. Ad absurdum, I could download the one I set to Dutch and re-upload it under my username with nl-NL?

That's why I would like to propose this:

1. Definition: a background with "no language" really means there is no language-related text, symbolism, etc on the background. I guess >90% of backgrounds are like this: textless; language-neutral
2. If you set a specific language, e.g. Dutch as the preference in TMDB or a Media Player, get the (most popular) Dutch background
3. If there are no Dutch backgrounds, get the most popular "no language" background

BTW, I currently get a no-language backdrop of ssrattus, so I assume that has become the most popular one.

As a final note, I know this is nitpicking and there are far more important things on your list. I am just trying to help out. Really appreciate the website,

Greetings,

Hablaras

When I set nl-NL as my favorite language for the TMDB website (or on Kodi or a downloader like Artwork Downloader), it all results in the Italian background, because, as Travis has stated, the most popular gets returned. And in this case, there exists no specific Dutch background. I tested with Kodi: it returns the Italian one. Even after waiting half a day for the TMDB API cache to get refreshed.

Maybe you can contact the developer, to fallback to no language? Or at least make that a possibility!

I would argue, that the collection that is there is perfectly fine. No need to add a fabricated (?) one with Dutch text on it.

Oh yeah, please don't do that here, in my opinion (oh gosh, I sound harsh and shit) they are usually quite shit. I meant on the client-side. I'm not sure how Kodi works, but Plex always gives me those possibilities! :)

I searched for the Artwork Manager you talked about, and it also seems to be possible to store your own artwork locally, from what I gather here

BTW, I currently get a no-language backdrop of ssrattus, so I assume that has become the most popular one.

I voted some (I actually voted down the ones just cropped out from the poster because I personally hate those, haha!) But hopefully that'll work for you for now.

That's why I would like to propose this: Definition: a background with "no language" really means there is no language-related text, symbolism, etc on the background. I guess >90% of backgrounds are like this: textless; language-neutral If you set a specific language, e.g. Dutch as the preference in TMDB or a Media Player, get the (most popular) Dutch background If there are no Dutch backgrounds, get the most popular "no language" background

Yes, you should put that through to the Kodi developer (or that Add-on developer). TMDb is just facilitating I'm afraid :(

Hi Hablaras,

Thanks for the details. Indeed the thing about backdrops is that they don't usually have text or a language on them. And further to that, even if we do have a backdrop with some text that has been tagged with your language, most users still prefer the textless ones. This is why we just go by rating. The community sorts this out 99% of the time all by itself just by voting for images. The odd time you might see a one with some text as the highest rated (like you did here originally) and in that case all any of us can do is vote it down and vote one that we like better up.

There is some plans for a more dynamic image service in the future where we'll be able to query on arbitrary tags like text, 3d, dvd cover, etc, and perhaps at that time it can just be a user setting.

Cheers.

@travisbell How does it work with posters?

https://www.themoviedb.org/tv/55082-villa-helena/discuss/59c021dcc3a36804ec001de9?page=1#59c042539251417de0003f49

Hi,

The summary seems to be: the most popular backdrop gets returned by default, and if I want an addon to do something more intelligent, I should contact the developer of that addon.

> I searched for the Artwork Manager you talked about, and it also seems to be possible to store your own artwork locally, from what I gather here

Yes, it seems like that. Unfortunately, I have all my movies in one big folder, and the "local" option only supports each movie in its own folder. It always downloads artwork with e.g. the fixed filename clearart.png or clearlogo.png. Still, it would have downloaded the italian one.

> I'm not sure how Kodi works, but Plex always gives me those possibilities!

In Kodi, only on a movie by movie basis, and that is like five clicks per artwork type (poster, background, animated background, clearart, clearlogo, ...)

I have set Artwork Downloader to nl-NL, but in bulk/automatic mode, it just picks the most popular for the background. I guess the setting only applies to posters/thumbs.

Greetings,

Frans