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sweat_smile We know greatness is out there and believe it deserves to be seen. sweat_smile

Well I'm curious. Are you?

Give your opinion about the arguments used and sign it if your curious to see greatness too.

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History is repeating itself. Link to article

The year was 1979. Director Richard Donner, who had been contracted to make two Superman films back-to-back, had achieved critical and commercial success with the first of them. 

Regardless of Superman’s success, Donner fell victim to backstage politics and was fired from the sequel… despite having filmed a large portion of it already. The reins were taken up by fellow director Richard Lester 

Mentions made by Donner over the years of his vision for the sequel reinforced the belief in fans of how much better it would have been under his full supervision, while Richard Lester earned the ire of fans. When new footage was discovered decades later, a project was undertaken to bring to life a version of Superman II that would become known as The Richard Donner Cut… largely thanks to pressure from fans, who campaigned heavily for it.

Fans should be cautious of putting too much faith in the near-mythical Zack Snyder cut of Justice League for many reasons, and history can teach us a lot.

When Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut was released in 2006, it was indeed a very different version of the classic sequel. It was described as a remarkable accomplishment, which in many ways it is. Some scenes in it have been re-edited, others use alternate takes, some scenes have utilised test footage and screen tests to complete them to remain more accurate to the original script, and other scenes from the theatrical release were removed entirely because they weren’t originally planned.

Some altered aspects of it are an improvement, but others are worse. Extended jokes which have been included are almost painful to watch, while others which originally made fans laugh have been removed; Several action scenes look better, while others which worked are gone entirely; There’s more Jor-El and less Superman; The ending is the same as the first Superman film only it carries less impact, while Lois Lane’s heartbreaking realisation that she can’t be with the man she loves from the theatrical cut is replaced with one strangely less personal.

It’s true that the supposed Justice League: The Zack Snyder Cut doesn’t have the passage of time against it like Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut did. The footage is apparently out there right now and, with today’s technology, it might not take much effort to edit it together although, presumably, some elements of Snyder’s version were incomplete. In order to make that happen though, some parts from the theatrical release which actually worked might have to be changed or removed entirely to make the cut footage fit… and the end result may not necessarily be better.

Snyder’s original rough cut of the film was described as being so bad it was “unwatchable”, which is something nobody wants. It’s easy to blame Joss Whedon for the inconsistent jokiness of the release version 

However, the more optimistic and hopeful tone was announced by producer Geoff Johns back in May of 2016, long before Snyder wrapped initial filming in October of that year, so it was meant to be lighter regardless.

Even if the mythical Zack Snyder Cut does appear one day, like Superman II: Richard Donner Cut, it may not be all that fans were hoping for and would exist solely as another patchwork project for those curious to see what might have been.

I don't like the old SM films, but I want to watch The Richard Donner Cut. I'm going to Google it right now.

@ComicBookGuy said:

Roberto Mata, creator of the “Snyder Cut Petition,” has lost his mind. He might be a racist and sexist.

https://twitter.com/ZayyanFarooqi/status/993149973767303168

The new petition is LONG.

https://www.change.org/p/warner-bros-zack-snyder-s-director-s-and-tom-holkenborg-s-score-for-home-release-e90fef07-11c6-4a9a-9ae8-375c7717dafa/u/22715145

My psychic power is on fire to day. It tells me that you'll be hearing a lot of we already knew he was crazy when he started the petition. rofl

@ComicBookGuy said:

Roberto Mata, creator of the “Snyder Cut Petition,” has lost his mind. He might be a racist and sexist.

https://twitter.com/ZayyanFarooqi/status/993149973767303168

ZS has distanced himself from him. I wonder if he'ss trying to prevent the ZS Cut Docu. by revealing things on Vero.

The new petition is LONG.

https://www.change.org/p/warner-bros-zack-snyder-s-director-s-and-tom-holkenborg-s-score-for-home-release-e90fef07-11c6-4a9a-9ae8-375c7717dafa/u/22715145

The link doesn't work.

@Cashmere said:

The link doesn't work.

I was going to say maybe they deleted the petition, but the link works for me. I can see it. Maybe he reposted it. I could copy paste it, but it’s really long. Check again. If you can’t see it, then someone who can will copy paste it for you.

@Blue-Rose said:

@Cashmere said:

The link doesn't work.

I was going to say maybe they deleted the petition, but the link works for me. I can see it. Maybe he reposted it. I could copy paste it, but it’s really long. Check again. If you can’t see it, then someone who can will copy paste it for you.

They probably never delete it. Someone changed my browser and proxy (I think) and I can see it now. The other browser is in private mode and has ad/trackers blocker activated. Is a whole thing and I'm not very good at it. And I don't care to be very good at it either. rolling_eyes

@Cashmere said:

@Blue-Rose said:

@Cashmere said:

The link doesn't work.

I was going to say maybe they deleted the petition, but the link works for me. I can see it. Maybe he reposted it. I could copy paste it, but it’s really long. Check again. If you can’t see it, then someone who can will copy paste it for you.

They probably never delete it. Someone changed my browser and proxy (I think) and I can see it now. The other browser is in private mode and has ad/trackers blocker activated. Is a whole thing and I'm not very good at it. And I don't care to be very good at it either. rolling_eyes

Makes my head spin too, but it's handy to know a little bit. E doesn't open in pv mode. If you forget to open it, you will use the normal one with cookies, ad and other things on. Also, If the content is blocked, you can unblock it by changing a few things.

@Gone_Man said:

@Mike4U said:

I’ll put this here.

Did you watch justice league deleted scene?

First off I shot them also I’ve been seeing them everywhere (in a good way) so yes.

https://batman-news.com/2018/02/15/zack-snyder-justice-league-deleted-scenes-response/

Leaving this here.

I will be honest, I have not seen the film since I stepped away. You know I love these characters. I wish only I could only finish it for you and the others who love MOS, BvS.
https://screenrant.com/justice-league-zack-snyder-directors-cut/

ZS still hasn't seen it. LOL

Justice League was such a bad experience for Zack Snyder that he still hasn't watched the film. He's learning certain aspects of it from the fans who talk to him on the social network platform Vero. Recently, there was a conversation going on regarding the Russian family in the film and Snyder ended up chiming in with the comment, "What Russian Family?"

Article

The ZS cut does exist and AT&T might release it. Read the tweets in the article.

Justice League storyboard artist Jay Oliva took to Twitter to smack down a hater, Forbes “columnist” Mark Hughes, who claimed the Snyder Cut didn’t exist by revealing what all Snyderbronies already knew: the Snyder Cut is real, baby!

So we’ve established that the Snyder Cut is real, and Warner Bros is holding it back purely out of spite. Now, how do we get our hands on it? The answer may come in the form of a savior: global telecommunications conglomerate AT&T. AT&T is set to take over Warner Bros soon, and someone in the upper echelons of the company must be a Snyderbrony themselves. Making the rounds on the internet over the weekend, Synderbronies have been contacting AT&T asking about the Snyder Cut, and AT&T reps have responded with what we can only possible take as an ironclad promise to release the film in the future:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/18/snyder-cut-of-justice-league-basically-confirmed-its-only-a-matter-of-time-now/

@Mike4U said:

The ZS cut does exist and AT&T might release it. Read the tweets in the article.

Justice League storyboard artist Jay Oliva took to Twitter to smack down a hater, Forbes “columnist” Mark Hughes, who claimed the Snyder Cut didn’t exist by revealing what all Snyderbronies already knew: the Snyder Cut is real, baby!

So we’ve established that the Snyder Cut is real, and Warner Bros is holding it back purely out of spite. Now, how do we get our hands on it? The answer may come in the form of a savior: global telecommunications conglomerate AT&T. AT&T is set to take over Warner Bros soon, and someone in the upper echelons of the company must be a Snyderbrony themselves. Making the rounds on the internet over the weekend, Synderbronies have been contacting AT&T asking about the Snyder Cut, and AT&T reps have responded with what we can only possible take as an ironclad promise to release the film in the future:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/18/snyder-cut-of-justice-league-basically-confirmed-its-only-a-matter-of-time-now/

I like this article.

I think when you add it all up, Justice League has to be the stupidest, most avoidable movie disaster of all time. HOW did a movie featuring all of the greatest superheroes of all fail to create more than a tiny ripple on the surface of movie goers minds? HOW did no one have the faith in the material to just let it be, but instead set a whole studio to tinkering? Also, WHY are so many people set on defending the work of the man who made Batman v Superman, one of the most risible movies of all times?

Perhaps the lesson of both Solo and Justice League is don’t publicly remove your directors no matter how badly they are doing – by the time the dust settles everyone will have made up their mind that the movie is no good. 

http://www.comicsbeat.com/which-will-we-see-first-the-pee-tape-or-the-snyder-justice-league-cut/

@Mike4U said:

The ZS cut does exist and AT&T might release it. Read the tweets in the article.

Justice League storyboard artist Jay Oliva took to Twitter to smack down a hater, Forbes “columnist” Mark Hughes, who claimed the Snyder Cut didn’t exist by revealing what all Snyderbronies already knew: the Snyder Cut is real, baby!

So we’ve established that the Snyder Cut is real, and Warner Bros is holding it back purely out of spite. Now, how do we get our hands on it? The answer may come in the form of a savior: global telecommunications conglomerate AT&T. AT&T is set to take over Warner Bros soon, and someone in the upper echelons of the company must be a Snyderbrony themselves. Making the rounds on the internet over the weekend, Synderbronies have been contacting AT&T asking about the Snyder Cut, and AT&T reps have responded with what we can only possible take as an ironclad promise to release the film in the future:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/18/snyder-cut-of-justice-league-basically-confirmed-its-only-a-matter-of-time-now/

Isn’t ATTCares’s reply a standard reply?

@Gone_Man said:

I like this article.

I think when you add it all up, Justice League has to be the stupidest, most avoidable movie disaster of all time. HOW did a movie featuring all of the greatest superheroes of all fail to create more than a tiny ripple on the surface of movie goers minds? HOW did no one have the faith in the material to just let it be, but instead set a whole studio to tinkering? Also, WHY are so many people set on defending the work of the man who made Batman v Superman, one of the most risible movies of all times?

Perhaps the lesson of both Solo and Justice League is don’t publicly remove your directors no matter how badly they are doing – by the time the dust settles everyone will have made up their mind that the movie is no good. 

http://www.comicsbeat.com/which-will-we-see-first-the-pee-tape-or-the-snyder-justice-league-cut/

sweat_smile

@Mike4U said:

The ZS cut does exist and AT&T might release it. Read the tweets in the article.

Justice League storyboard artist Jay Oliva took to Twitter to smack down a hater, Forbes “columnist” Mark Hughes, who claimed the Snyder Cut didn’t exist by revealing what all Snyderbronies already knew: the Snyder Cut is real, baby!

So we’ve established that the Snyder Cut is real, and Warner Bros is holding it back purely out of spite. Now, how do we get our hands on it? The answer may come in the form of a savior: global telecommunications conglomerate AT&T. AT&T is set to take over Warner Bros soon, and someone in the upper echelons of the company must be a Snyderbrony themselves. Making the rounds on the internet over the weekend, Synderbronies have been contacting AT&T asking about the Snyder Cut, and AT&T reps have responded with what we can only possible take as an ironclad promise to release the film in the future:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/18/snyder-cut-of-justice-league-basically-confirmed-its-only-a-matter-of-time-now/

ZS will be at SDCC. Maybe he'll announce it there. I'm one of the few here who wants to see the his cut.

@Blue-Rose said:

@Mike4U said:

The ZS cut does exist and AT&T might release it. Read the tweets in the article.

Justice League storyboard artist Jay Oliva took to Twitter to smack down a hater, Forbes “columnist” Mark Hughes, who claimed the Snyder Cut didn’t exist by revealing what all Snyderbronies already knew: the Snyder Cut is real, baby!

So we’ve established that the Snyder Cut is real, and Warner Bros is holding it back purely out of spite. Now, how do we get our hands on it? The answer may come in the form of a savior: global telecommunications conglomerate AT&T. AT&T is set to take over Warner Bros soon, and someone in the upper echelons of the company must be a Snyderbrony themselves. Making the rounds on the internet over the weekend, Synderbronies have been contacting AT&T asking about the Snyder Cut, and AT&T reps have responded with what we can only possible take as an ironclad promise to release the film in the future:

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2018/06/18/snyder-cut-of-justice-league-basically-confirmed-its-only-a-matter-of-time-now/

ZS will be at SDCC. Maybe he'll announce it there. I'm one of the few here who wants to see the his cut.

I want to see it too. I won't pay though. rofl

@Gone_Man said:

I like this article.

I think when you add it all up, Justice League has to be the stupidest, most avoidable movie disaster of all time. HOW did a movie featuring all of the greatest superheroes of all fail to create more than a tiny ripple on the surface of movie goers minds? HOW did no one have the faith in the material to just let it be, but instead set a whole studio to tinkering? Also, WHY are so many people set on defending the work of the man who made Batman v Superman, one of the most risible movies of all times?

Perhaps the lesson of both Solo and Justice League is don’t publicly remove your directors no matter how badly they are doing – by the time the dust settles everyone will have made up their mind that the movie is no good. 

http://www.comicsbeat.com/which-will-we-see-first-the-pee-tape-or-the-snyder-justice-league-cut/

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@Cashmere said:

@Blue-Rose said:

ZS will be at SDCC. Maybe he'll announce it there. I'm one of the few here who wants to see the his cut.

I want to see it too. I won't pay though. rofl

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