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Happy for his success. He's really smart, the way he's handling the aftermath. He's not turning it into a blood feud, nor is he glossing over it with a routine. Opens with a vague but hilarious reference "Soo how was your weekend?" then explains that he's not going to do any comedy about it because he's still processing it. Moves on. Everyone's happy and goes home with a smile. Alls I gotta say is... if I ever get the sh* smacked outta me on international tv, I want Chris Rock to handle my PR.

He's doing great. He was humiliated lets be honest. He has every right not to make it about him. But I want him to do an entire HBO special about the event. We're all dying to hear his takes on this.

I doubt many people out there would deny he's a smart cookie. I just think he figured that slamming JPS was practically sanctioned by the Academy that night, and so he could get away with it scot free.

@CelluloidFan said:

I doubt many people out there would deny he's a smart cookie. I just think he figured that slamming JPS was practically sanctioned by the Academy that night, and so he could get away with it scot free.

There have been some interesting discussions on other forums about exactly what, if anything, was offensive about the joke. Let's think about it.

He compared her to a hot badass chick, Demi Moore age 36 in GI Jane. That's as great as a compliment can get.

So it's sort of like going up to a bald man and saying, 'Hey weren't you in Fast & Furious?' (Dwayne Johnson)

Whether the Academy knew it was coming or not, I think it was a totally safe joke and so did the crowd (and Will). Jada was literally the only person in the room who got butthurt. And now she's using her jedi mind trick, like she did on Will, to make us all think it was some horrible outrage. She manipulated this whole non-event into a catastrophe. Reminds me of the saying 'Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.'

Agreed. And I love how everyone looked up her condition. It's a common condition, not a death sentence.

No no no no no no no no no no no.

As a poster once stated on this very site, people don’t care about something until it happens to them.

@CelluloidFan said:

No no no no no no no no no no no.

As a poster once stated on this very site, people don’t care about something until it happens to them.

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Are you talking about good natured ribbing, or getting cold cocked in the jaw while you're trying to entertain people on stage? If you're defending the Smiths please state your whole argument.

@rooprect said:

There have been some interesting discussions on other forums about exactly what, if anything, was offensive about the joke. Let's think about it.

Let's see here. "Think" is what I did when I composed and posted numerous posts on this subject earlier. It seems like I've encountered your--I hate to say it, but haughty writing style--here before.

He compared her to a hot badass chick, Demi Moore age 36 in GI Jane. That's as great as a compliment can get.

Haven't seen the film, but I do believe that GI Jane is bald. I will repeat from another post: No woman wants to go around without hair, unless that's her personal choice. So, the joke's not "as great ... a compliment" a woman can get at all. And what in God's name does Demi Moore's age when doing the GI Jane film have to do with any of this?

So it's sort of like going up to a bald man and saying, 'Hey weren't you in Fast & Furious?' (Dwayne Johnson)

Right, that's a hypothetical.

Whether the Academy knew it was coming or not, I think it was a totally safe joke and so did the crowd (and Will). Jada was literally the only person in the room who got butthurt. And now she's using her jedi mind trick, like she did on Will, to make us all think it was some horrible outrage. She manipulated this whole non-event into a catastrophe. Reminds me of the saying 'Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.'

Kid, that is like the height of arrogance. How do you know what Will Smith was thinking that night? You and I saw him laugh briefly; that could've been his 'social B.S.' reaction. And Jada was literally the only person in the room who got butthurt? Literally? So you know what everybody else in the room there was feeling too. And even if you're right--believe it or not--Jada is a person who deserves to not get her feelings hurt while attending the ceremony. What she did in regard to the Oscars boycott about five years back shouldn't be used as a so-called justification for Chris Rock's jokes, as far as I'm concerned.

And just to play Devil's advocate here, how good-natured was the GI Jane joke, really? Or any of the comics' jokes that night? Did you write the jokes? Was the GI Jane joke 100% innocent?

I'm not defending Will & Jada, really. I was stating an opinion, putting in my .02.

@CelluloidFan said:

@rooprect said:

There have been some interesting discussions on other forums about exactly what, if anything, was offensive about the joke. Let's think about it.

Let's see here. "Think" is what I did when I composed and posted numerous posts on this subject earlier. It seems like I've encountered your--I hate to say it, but haughty writing style--here before.

Now I’ve seen it all. An anti-grammar-nazi whose best rebuttal is to cry because someone is too grammatically correct? Didn’t read the rest. Have fun with yourself kiddo.

@rooprect said:

@CelluloidFan said:

@rooprect said:

There have been some interesting discussions on other forums about exactly what, if anything, was offensive about the joke. Let's think about it.

Let's see here. "Think" is what I did when I composed and posted numerous posts on this subject earlier. It seems like I've encountered your--I hate to say it, but haughty writing style--here before.

Now I’ve seen it all. An anti-grammar-nazi whose best rebuttal is to cry because someone is too grammatically correct? Didn’t read the rest.

Your loss, but OK. BTW, is labeling folks really, all that helpful?

I was thinking about it some more: If you don't see Chris Rock as wrong at all, and I'm not saying that's the case with you, you might be seeing Jada Pinkett Smith as a thing. Not to feel bad, because lots of folks do it to black women.

However, this thinking is wrong. It doesn't matter if you yourself are depersonalized; you have no right to deny JPS, or anybody else, their personhood. People are not possessions to be owned; they are potential human beings with inalienable rights and destinies.

Again, even if JPS was the only person in the room at the Academy Awards who was "butthurt" as you put it--she's a person with feelings.

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