I'm not as big a fan of the movie as some people, but I really like this performance. In fact, she sort of makes the movie for me. She's so enigmatic, you can tell something's not quite right with her but can't put your finger on what. I almost wouldn't call her a Femme Fatale because they generally don't kill people themselves and manipulate people with raw sex appeal, where as she just made Bogart feel protective of her. I was surprised to see that a lot of people didn't like the performance and thought she was miscast.
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Réponse de genplant29
le 19 mars 2017 à 23h35
I always consider her ideal in all of her roles, from beginning of career to end. Miss Astor always got her portrayals right, in my opinion.
Réponse de vishnu
le 20 mars 2017 à 01h01
The first time I saw the movie, I thought Bogie was nuts to give her over. The second time I saw it, but ONLY because I had already seen it, I saw her as the obsessed manipulative psychotic murderer she really was. Hats off to Sam Spade for seeing the true her the first time, and hats off to Mary for such and outstanding performance. Oh, and the greatest line from that movie is NOT the vaunted "stuff that dreams are made of," it's "I hope they don't hang you by that pretty little neck of yours." With the possible exception of The Big Sleep, the best "private eye" movie I've ever seen.
Réponse de CountJohn
le 20 mars 2017 à 01h13
I also was pretty conflicted about it too, given that she had me going too and I wanted to protect her the whole time, but Bogie did the right thing. Murder is murder and he especially had to be loyal to his ex partner and not let her get away with it
Réponse de vishnu
le 20 mars 2017 à 02h01
Well, Bogie had her figured out but I'm sure that at her trial her defense attorney put her in the witness stand and she won over the jury just exactly in the same way as she won over me in my first viewing. Yeah, she walked. And probably never gave Sam Spade the time of day again, even though he said (totally just to jab her) "with any luck you'll be out in 20 years, and I'll be waiting for you."
Réponse de CountJohn
le 20 mars 2017 à 20h49
I doubt it, just because her murder was just for profit. Women can get away with stuff like that if they have a motive that looks "noble" (like killing a cheating husband or something) but not just if she's basically a gold digger.
Réponse de vishnu
le 21 mars 2017 à 14h54
Well Spade himself certainly didn't think she'd get off, in the book he said _"I’m going to send you over. The chances are you’ll get off with life. That means you’ll be out again in twenty years. You’re an angel. I’ll wait for you…if they hang you I’ll always remember you." The screenplay was worded a bit different but conveyed the exact same hard-boiled grittiness...
Réponse de wonder2wonder
le 21 mars 2017 à 15h17
It would be interesting to watch her trial with Spade as a witness. Will she be able to use her seductive feminine wiles and get a hung jury?
Réponse de vishnu
le 21 mars 2017 à 16h31
I just looked on the Intertubes to see if Hammett had ever offered an opinion as to what may have happened to her at trial, but I didn't find anything. =(
Réponse de CountJohn
le 21 mars 2017 à 17h47
Very nice pun. ;)
Réponse de Butterflygal
le 16 janvier 2024 à 15h23
I finally got around to watching it. I like the Big Sleep better. But it is cool to see a film with Mary Astor. Have you seen the 1931 version?
Réponse de genplant29
le 16 janvier 2024 à 21h09
Give this movie a watch at some point. It features a completely different type (as a bedraggled prostitute with a heart of gold) Mary Astor than she otherwise ever played; her performance is superb, touching, and memorable in it.
A thread I created about Mary Astor in that movie
I have the DVD of it and like that version (other than not caring for Ricardo Cortez - never have), though the remake is better. '31 is enjoyable and very Pre-Code; I've long been a fan of films of that spicey, sexy 1929-1934 era.
Réponse de Butterflygal
le 8 février 2024 à 02h24
Pre Code films are fun.