I never read this comicbook, but the films made it all look rather interesting, I must say.

nope nope nope

Dredd never takes his helmet off. Ever. They should have played the sound of a needle scratch and stopped the film when he did. That alone makes the Stallone film inferior. (That and Rob Schneider.)

I enjoyed it, especially the ABC Warrior, but Dredd was a better film. I don't think Urban quite had the physical size (or voice) to fit the role, though. That said, I'd still love to see a Dredd vs. Death movie at some point.

@AlienFanatic said:

Dredd never takes his helmet off. Ever. They should have played the sound of a needle scratch and stopped the film when he did. That alone makes the Stallone film inferior. (That and Rob Schneider.)

I enjoyed it, especially the ABC Warrior, but Dredd was a better film. I don't think Urban quite had the physical size (or voice) to fit the role, though. That said, I'd still love to see a Dredd vs. Death movie at some point.

Thank you, dude. Agree with everything (except I didn't enjoy the Stallone version in the slightest. It wasn't just a failure as an adaptation but a badly made film).

Even the Karl Urban one was still pretty far off from the comics but was a lot closer in spirit and a better film. I thought the idea to make Anderson a rookie was genius. That way it's her that gets the character arc and is essentially the audiences way in.

Judge Death would be awesome on screen if done right.

@Satch_the_man said:

I never read this comicbook, but the films made it all look rather interesting, I must say.

They are. But nothing like the Stallone version at all. If they ever do a film that truly captures the comics, it will be pretty special. The comics tend to be more satirical.

@Damienracer said:

ugh stupid.

Do you know any other insult? Come on, buddy, put your back into it.

For the early 90s?

You think I'm gonna go easy on something because it was made in the 90's?

A badly made film?

Unquestionably. And it would be very interesting to hear your defense. I wish you a lot of luck.

This was a film that was infamous for being terrible so this is an easy job for me. I'll leave out it's failings as an adaptation and treat it as a stand alone film.

The plot was the whole cliched, framed for murder, prove my innocence shite that plagued a million films back then and was generally a ploy used for action films when the filmmakers couldn't think of anything interesting.

The action was unimaginative and badly edited. (With the exception of the flying bike chase, that was quite fun)

The characters were all empty, cardboard cutouts. Stallone was exactly the same as he usually is. The whole film was like a less fun version of Demolition Man.

Rob Schneider?!?!?!

The whole film had no balls. It was tame and sanitized. Too eager for that PG13 rating when this was really a film that needed to be violent.

It was predictable as hell. I remember counting this as a kid, but four times during the film, someone gets- "Suprise!"- dramatically killed from behind.

The dialogue was a joke.

It's currently at 18% on Rotten Tomatoes and 5.5 on imdb.

Writer Steven De Souza even admitted he hated the comic character and couldn't find a way to make him interesting. So the writer clearly didn't understand the material.

I'll help you out a bit. The sets did look pretty cool.

@Damienracer said:

your reply was so smug but in a good douche way that I'm not even bothered.

Getting better, getting better. I can feel a bit of the hate now. You just need to mix in some wit, make it a bit sharper. Stick it in me like a knife.

@JustinJackFlash said:

@AlienFanatic said:

Dredd never takes his helmet off. Ever. They should have played the sound of a needle scratch and stopped the film when he did. That alone makes the Stallone film inferior. (That and Rob Schneider.)

I enjoyed it, especially the ABC Warrior, but Dredd was a better film. I don't think Urban quite had the physical size (or voice) to fit the role, though. That said, I'd still love to see a Dredd vs. Death movie at some point.

Thank you, dude. Agree with everything (except I didn't enjoy the Stallone version in the slightest. It wasn't just a failure as an adaptation but a badly made film).

Even the Karl Urban one was still pretty far off from the comics but was a lot closer in spirit and a better film. I thought the idea to make Anderson a rookie was genius. That way it's her that gets the character arc and is essentially the audiences way in.

Judge Death would be awesome on screen if done right.

@Satch_the_man said:

I never read this comicbook, but the films made it all look rather interesting, I must say.

They are. But nothing like the Stallone version at all. If they ever do a film that truly captures the comics, it will be pretty special. The comics tend to be more satirical.

Yeah, as I said, I didn't read the comicbooks, but still, when Stallone's film came out, I could tell that something was missing. I was really like, "Why are they even doing this?" But at least things seemed to look like they did in the comicbooks.

@Satch_the_man said:

Yeah, as I said, I didn't read the comicbooks, but still, when Stallone's film came out, I could tell that something was missing. I was really like, "Why are they even doing this?" But at least things seemed to look like they did in the comicbooks.

Oh, yeah, I agree. The one thing the Stallone film did do better than the Urban one was the look. I did really like Stallone's Judge outfit. It made it more of a shame when he took the helmet off.

@JustinJackFlash said:

@Satch_the_man said:

Yeah, as I said, I didn't read the comicbooks, but still, when Stallone's film came out, I could tell that something was missing. I was really like, "Why are they even doing this?" But at least things seemed to look like they did in the comicbooks.

Oh, yeah, I agree. The one thing the Stallone film did do better than the Urban one was the look. I did really like Stallone's Judge outfit. It made it more of a shame when he took the helmet off.

Would've been better if Dredd was played by a lesser known actor supported by an all star cast.

Think the framed for murder plot would been better for a sequel and the movie should've been like the 2012 film Dredd with a trainee Anderson or Hershey.

Glad to see this discussion bubble up, especially now that they're about to produce a Judge Dredd TV/streaming show.

You know who I'd have loved to see play Dredd? Ron F(reaking) Perlman. The guy had the huge jaw, deep voice (or how I'd imagine Dredd to sound), and size to fit the role. Perlman has been rather typecast in these types of roles, of course, so it's almost a cliche to envision him in the role but I think he'd have been a better presence than Urban. (I do like Urban, though, I really do just not as Dredd.) Funny thing is that in the comics, Dredd is 66 and Perlman is 67.

I'll reiterate that I enjoyed the Stallone film BEFORE I'd read any of the comics. And even now, after reading only a few, I can't claim to be any great authority on Dredd. However, he needs to be played as an observer and not necessarily the protagonist. Dredd is more of a concept than a person; the unrelenting, oppressive force of the State in human form. He has no sense of humor, no mercy, and isn't interested in heroism or glory. He simply interprets the law and executes the guilty and the fun in Dredd comics, for me at least, are the creative ways that he goes about that mission. (That and the cool villains he's up against.) Stallone always had to be "the hero" in his movies and that means he's playing Stallone, not Dredd. That's why the helmet came off and it's why he had to demonstrate emotion--anathema to Dredd--at each and every plot twist. The more recent film, at least, got that right.

(Gotta throw in here that adding Armand Assante into ANY film ups the "cheese factor" by orders of magnitude. Ugh.)

Here's hoping that whatever comes next, since there are no other film projects in the works, leverages the spirit of the recent movie, the production design of the Stallone film, and tosses in an A-list actor that understands that Dredd isn't the most important part of the show. If they give him some kind of emo backstory and love interest, I kick my TV.

@AlienFanatic said:

You know who I'd have loved to see play Dredd? Ron F(reaking) Perlman. The guy had the huge jaw, deep voice (or how I'd imagine Dredd to sound), and size to fit the role.

Yes!!

I've been banging that drum for years. It would be absolute perfect casting.

@AlienFanatic said:

Glad to see this discussion bubble up, especially now that they're about to produce a Judge Dredd TV/streaming show.

You know who I'd have loved to see play Dredd? Ron F(reaking) Perlman. The guy had the huge jaw, deep voice (or how I'd imagine Dredd to sound), and size to fit the role. Perlman has been rather typecast in these types of roles, of course, so it's almost a cliche to envision him in the role but I think he'd have been a better presence than Urban. (I do like Urban, though, I really do just not as Dredd.) Funny thing is that in the comics, Dredd is 66 and Perlman is 67.

I'll reiterate that I enjoyed the Stallone film BEFORE I'd read any of the comics. And even now, after reading only a few, I can't claim to be any great authority on Dredd. However, he needs to be played as an observer and not necessarily the protagonist. Dredd is more of a concept than a person; the unrelenting, oppressive force of the State in human form. He has no sense of humor, no mercy, and isn't interested in heroism or glory. He simply interprets the law and executes the guilty and the fun in Dredd comics, for me at least, are the creative ways that he goes about that mission. (That and the cool villains he's up against.) Stallone always had to be "the hero" in his movies and that means he's playing Stallone, not Dredd. That's why the helmet came off and it's why he had to demonstrate emotion--anathema to Dredd--at each and every plot twist. The more recent film, at least, got that right.

(Gotta throw in here that adding Armand Assante into ANY film ups the "cheese factor" by orders of magnitude. Ugh.)

Here's hoping that whatever comes next, since there are no other film projects in the works, leverages the spirit of the recent movie, the production design of the Stallone film, and tosses in an A-list actor that understands that Dredd isn't the most important part of the show. If they give him some kind of emo backstory and love interest, I kick my TV.

Most Dredd stories are an ensemble drama so Dredd isn't necessarily the main hero, 95 Dredd should've been that not a movie star vehicle or a stock action hero movie.

If the film had been made in the 1980's at the time of The Terminator, RoboCop and Total Recall not 1995 I think things could've been very different.

@MickyMac said:

If the film had been made in the 1980's at the time of The Terminator, RoboCop and Total Recall not 1995 I think things could've been very different.

Robocop was originally a Judge Dredd adaptation. But there were rights issues. So it became Robocop.

You can see many elements of Dredd's world still there. Most notably in the satire.

@Damienracer said:

@AlienFanatic said:

Glad to see this discussion bubble up, especially now that they're about to produce a Judge Dredd TV/streaming show.

You know who I'd have loved to see play Dredd? Ron F(reaking) Perlman. The guy had the huge jaw, deep voice (or how I'd imagine Dredd to sound), and size to fit the role. Perlman has been rather typecast in these types of roles, of course, so it's almost a cliche to envision him in the role but I think he'd have been a better presence than Urban. (I do like Urban, though, I really do just not as Dredd.) Funny thing is that in the comics, Dredd is 66 and Perlman is 67.

I'll reiterate that I enjoyed the Stallone film BEFORE I'd read any of the comics. And even now, after reading only a few, I can't claim to be any great authority on Dredd. However, he needs to be played as an observer and not necessarily the protagonist. Dredd is more of a concept than a person; the unrelenting, oppressive force of the State in human form. He has no sense of humor, no mercy, and isn't interested in heroism or glory. He simply interprets the law and executes the guilty and the fun in Dredd comics, for me at least, are the creative ways that he goes about that mission. (That and the cool villains he's up against.) Stallone always had to be "the hero" in his movies and that means he's playing Stallone, not Dredd. That's why the helmet came off and it's why he had to demonstrate emotion--anathema to Dredd--at each and every plot twist. The more recent film, at least, got that right.

(Gotta throw in here that adding Armand Assante into ANY film ups the "cheese factor" by orders of magnitude. Ugh.)

Here's hoping that whatever comes next, since there are no other film projects in the works, leverages the spirit of the recent movie, the production design of the Stallone film, and tosses in an A-list actor that understands that Dredd isn't the most important part of the show. If they give him some kind of emo backstory and love interest, I kick my TV.

Ron Perlman would be awful as Dredd. I don't even know where to start.

He did kind of practically deep-six Blade 2. Can't speak on what he'd be like as Dredd, though.

@Damienracer said:

@Satch_the_man said:

@Damienracer said:

@AlienFanatic said:

Glad to see this discussion bubble up, especially now that they're about to produce a Judge Dredd TV/streaming show.

You know who I'd have loved to see play Dredd? Ron F(reaking) Perlman. The guy had the huge jaw, deep voice (or how I'd imagine Dredd to sound), and size to fit the role. Perlman has been rather typecast in these types of roles, of course, so it's almost a cliche to envision him in the role but I think he'd have been a better presence than Urban. (I do like Urban, though, I really do just not as Dredd.) Funny thing is that in the comics, Dredd is 66 and Perlman is 67.

I'll reiterate that I enjoyed the Stallone film BEFORE I'd read any of the comics. And even now, after reading only a few, I can't claim to be any great authority on Dredd. However, he needs to be played as an observer and not necessarily the protagonist. Dredd is more of a concept than a person; the unrelenting, oppressive force of the State in human form. He has no sense of humor, no mercy, and isn't interested in heroism or glory. He simply interprets the law and executes the guilty and the fun in Dredd comics, for me at least, are the creative ways that he goes about that mission. (That and the cool villains he's up against.) Stallone always had to be "the hero" in his movies and that means he's playing Stallone, not Dredd. That's why the helmet came off and it's why he had to demonstrate emotion--anathema to Dredd--at each and every plot twist. The more recent film, at least, got that right.

(Gotta throw in here that adding Armand Assante into ANY film ups the "cheese factor" by orders of magnitude. Ugh.)

Here's hoping that whatever comes next, since there are no other film projects in the works, leverages the spirit of the recent movie, the production design of the Stallone film, and tosses in an A-list actor that understands that Dredd isn't the most important part of the show. If they give him some kind of emo backstory and love interest, I kick my TV.

Ron Perlman would be awful as Dredd. I don't even know where to start.

He did kind of practically deep-six Blade 2. Can't speak on what he'd be like as Dredd, though.

He's a great hellboy but he doesn't fit the role of Dredd, I just can't see it.

Who should've been Dredd Michael Ironside the original choice for RoboCop.