讨论 The Last of the Mohicans
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More tropes than you can shake a stick at *spoilers*
FergooseSTAFFMOD 发布于 2021 年 02 月 18 日 5:03下午
Tropes and other things that didn't sit well with me.
1) DDL yells in ludicrously overblown manner "I will find you, however long it takes" - then finds her less than 5 mins later in runtime. Epicness.
2) Soldier who is a fairly appalling and lying human has a complete character transplant in his last scene and sacrifices himself to save the life of a man he hates so much he lied about him so that he might be hanged.
3) Melodrama with a needless solo attempt at a clifftop rescue, rather than wait for his father and brother, who were about 1 minute behind, to help even out the odds. Dies just in time for father and son to see his last breath.
4) followed by a lady throwing herself to her death for no obvious reason and.... sister arrives just in time to see her draw her last breath
5) women who need to stop because they are too tired on horseback in the first half of the film become mountain goats able to ascend steep hills on foot with ease in the second half at the same speed as running male Native Americans.
6) the Last Mohican gets about his only line in English, right at the end of the film. His son (also of colour) gets almost no lines. But the white son? Well we know how that goes.
7) some of the admittedly nice music seemingly looped to death. One piece seemed to go on for near 5mins
8) let's just stand and stare at a vista... for a very long time.
9) unusual military tactic of running solo into an armed convoy to attack one British soldier by hand, thereby completely destroying any element surprise your side had when they attack about a minute later.
10) picking up two single fire rifles and firing them, one in each hand with pinpoint accuracy.
11) 3 Native Americans, hostile to being pawns of the British army, attack a rival indigenous group, whilst horribly outnumbered 10 to 1 in order to save uh... British soldiers. Absolutely no attempt to establish motivation for massively risking their lives that I could see.
In short, I have no idea why people put this on a pedestal. The 20mins around the fort siege were very good in almost every way, but otherwise this was all kinds of silly with pretty ordinary dialogue and acting.
5/10
bratface 的回复
于 2021 年 02 月 18 日 5:12下午
4) She fell off the cliff so the 'bad indians' couldn't have their way with her.
cpheonix 的回复
于 2021 年 02 月 18 日 8:01下午
4) I'm pretty sure she committed suicide because she was in love with the other Indian and witnessed him getting killed.
Admittedly I've not seen this for a long time, but I remember it being a great film. However, you do raise valid points!
bratface 的回复
于 2021 年 02 月 18 日 8:37下午
That too, but she figured since he was gone she didn't want the 'bad guys' to have their way with her before they killed her.
MongoLloyd 的回复
于 2021 年 02 月 18 日 10:11下午
Ya know, the novel this is based on was written in 1826.
Fergoose 的回复
于 2021 年 02 月 19 日 10:20上午
Apparently there are scenes expanding on the relationship between the coloured brother and the other sister that ended up on the cutting room floor. It wasn't so much the suicide that bothered me, it was that the other sister turned up just in time to see it and scream, when a minute earlier the brother had been thrown off the same cliff just in time for DDL to see it and scream. I was almost waiting for the 'bad' native American to slip and fall off the cliff with his father to turn up just in time to see it and scream. Then for DDL to fall off the cliff with his horse turning up just in time to see it and whinny.
Ronnoco 的回复
于 2023 年 02 月 22 日 9:04下午
Just to respond to #11: Chigachkook and his son Uncas were Mohicans, a tribe that was traditionally hostile to Magua's Hurons. During the French and Indian War ( the setting of this movie ), the Mohicans were allied with the British, while the Hurons were allied with the French. Chingachkook, earlier in the film, mentioned that he'd given his word to the British to support them, and wasn't willing to break his word.