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It gives not really one single clue as to how apes came to be the dominant primate species of Earth. The sequels do but they were not even in the planning stages at this time. How uneven to not have any character in this film just talk about how apes grew smart suddenly by scientific genetic injections (or did they just freakishly and naturally jump the evolutionary gun?). The former explanation is hinted at in the third film when they examine the dead ape at the zoo. This film really left too much out.
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Réponse de manfromatlantis
le 12 janvier 2021 à 19h00
I noticed the. First film leaves that to the imagenation.
Réponse de Benton12
le 12 janvier 2021 à 21h45
Big holes. Too much info left out! We were supposed to be permanently baffled! It was never originally supposed to have any sequel! See my postings!
Réponse de tmdb53400018
le 13 janvier 2021 à 11h56
I never saw the original film in its entirety, as I find this franchise to be possibly racist. However, I noticed that maybe the last image in the film is of part of The Statue of Liberty, while I think the main character screams at it in horror. I think they just meant for the film's end to be really upsetting.
My man Rod Serling ("The Twilight Zone") had a hand in the writing of this... he was really good for that kind of surrealistic provocation.
Réponse de tmdb82469342
le 14 janvier 2021 à 08h46
Please elaborate.
Réponse de tmdb53400018
le 14 janvier 2021 à 19h41
Are you serious?
I won't sit through a whole "Apes" movie, because on some level, I find the effects that some of the actors wear to be mildly offensive.
Réponse de Benton12
le 14 janvier 2021 à 23h15
Do not blame me for the conversation going in this direction of Cell!
Réponse de tmdb82469342
le 15 janvier 2021 à 00h36
What was it about the Oscar winning make up effects that offended you?
Réponse de Benton12
le 15 janvier 2021 à 01h23
Everyone see my postings on POTA they are very interesting!
Réponse de tmdb53400018
le 15 janvier 2021 à 01h29
Not quite sure!
Réponse de tmdb53400018
le 15 janvier 2021 à 01h54
In my experience, I've found that when a thread goes off in a different direction or directions, it may last longer.
Réponse de sukhisoo
le 18 juin 2021 à 12h22
It is nice when a movie or novel leaves a few details out. It allows an imaginative mind to fill in the details.
My supposition when watching this movie was that apes evolved while humans, with their decadent proclivities, lost their technological edge.
Other explanations are certainly possible.
Réponse de sukhisoo
le 18 juin 2021 à 12h34
There are racist undertones to the franchise to be sure, but they were intended to point out some of the problems our society has with racism. By having the humans be the oppressed species, it allows us, the viewers, to have a more sympathetic eye towards what had been done and what continues to be done to people based solely on the color of their skin.
One of my friends, who is black, does like this film. He did notice something I had not. The darker skinned apes (the gorillas) are the warrior class. They are the brutes who are manipulated by the lighter skinned orangutans to enforce the law and order.
I found it interesting but mildly flawed. The chimps, who we are meant to sympathize with the most, are also dark skinned and are intellectually superior to both the gorillas and orangutans. Their intellect does not help them over much. The orangutans are much more politically savvy and are able to harness the strength of the gorillas to inflict their will on the entirety of the world. They are essentially the politicians and religious leaders. The chimps are the scientists who are also used as tools (often unwillingly).
I do not believe that skin color was an overt factor in the movie.
The humans were the stand ins for the exploited underclass (who were and still are predominantly people of color).
The racist undertones were designed to make you feel uncomfortable. I don't believe racism was glorified in this franchise.
Réponse de tmdb53400018
le 18 juin 2021 à 13h12
Although I never watched the movie in full, I did perceive that M.O. at work there.
That's interesting, sukhi... now I did notice that there were different colored, um, apes in the movie. However, I never bothered to get into the movie enough to get all that from it. It seems that if one buys into the film's initial premise or currency of black people as apes, there's a whole mess of jacked up ideas to wade through in it, hmm?
Why not?
Right again...
Damn... maybe Rod Serling isn't so much my man as I'd thought he was... what are your thoughts on his work?
Réponse de sukhisoo
le 18 juin 2021 à 15h19
The Twilight Zone frequently makes social commentary. Race is sometimes an issue. There is an episode (forgive the fact that I don't have the titles memorized) where George Takei and Neville Brand hate each other based solely on the color of each others skin. It ends badly for both of them.
I have never seen an episode where racism is portrayed in a positive light. The underlying racism in Planet of the Apes is negatively depicted. In my eyes, this elevates Rod Serling. Not only is he capable of creating surrealistic scenarios that bend the mind a little, he can sneak some observations about contemporary society in his works.
Now if I thought Planet of the Apes glorified the racism that is encoded into the film, I would be with you completely. I don't think that it does. It condemns it.
"A sickness known as hate. Not a virus, not a microbe, not a germ—but a sickness nonetheless, highly contagious, deadly in its effects. Don't look for it in the Twilight Zone—look for it in a mirror. Look for it before the light goes out altogether."
--Rod Serling
Réponse de tmdb53400018
le 18 juin 2021 à 15h59
Now see, this is why I feel you need to ask yourself, do I have a window into the black experience, before you come at us, questioning us.
So, the light-skinned apes, symbolic of light-skinned black people, are the bad guys in this film who manipulate the darker apes (meaning dark-skinned black folks) and keep them under their thumbs, and you’re telling me to look in the mirror for hatred?! Correct me if I’m wrong about the facts of this film, please.
Check your non-black privilege.