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Now I got to be honest I'm not totally familiar with the source material so I don't know if it's the writing in this film or the source material that is the problem. Either way the characters come off as very shallow and one sided. This is especially true of Hamm. That boy seems to have a totally one track mind. All he thinks about is getting laid and even throws a total hissyfit when some chick he met five minutes ago dies. He acts like she was the great love of his love or something. Come on son you met her five minutes ago and you were just looking for someone who was down to clown. Hell, they even end this movie in a cliffhanger of sorts with Hamm leaving on his continuing quest of trying to get laid. It kind of seems like they were thinking about doing a sequel. Seems like it would've been even more shallow, though, as far as the plot goes, than this film. It could've had a great name, though: Noah 2 - The quest for a$s.

While I'm here I also have to ask why was Noah so angry about Emma Watson's children if they were going to be female? Who exactly are they going to reproduce with if there are no blokes on that paradise of theirs? Was that young kid of his Jaffar supposed to reproduce with them? That doesn't really make sense, though, because he could just do it with Emma Watson and it would make more sense as well since they were not of blood relation.

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Concerning the source material-- I'll just say that if one is familiar with the original story, you realize just a few minutes into the film that this is very much Darren Aronofsky's "interpretation" of the Noah story; it has very little relation to the actual Biblical text. That's what I realized upon seeing this in the theater back in 2014, and so I just sat back and took it for what it was. In terms of non-historically accurate entertainment, I thought it was a very good film.

Concerning Hamm, I didn't find his behavior all that unbelievable for a young (teenage?) male-- he had no sexual outlet, while the other males around him did, hence his smoldering resentment. In the Biblical text, Noah leaves in the ark with his wife and his sons and their wives, so everyone has a sexual partner.

As for Emma Watson-- I rather enjoyed her in this film, and her teasing, almost-nude scenes. There once was a time when I thought we'd actually get to see her do a real nude scene in a movie, since around the time this film came out she had said (on David Letterman's show, I think) that she would do a nude scene in film if it was done tastefully, but since she has apparently become a super-feminist in the intervening years, I'm guessing that probably won't ever happen, now:(

I figured the story in the bible would make more sense and assumed this movie took quite a few liberties with the story. Still, I cant help but to wonder what the director and writer were thinking with the two children and Noah's resentment towards them. Did they just forget they would have no one to reproduce with and thus there would be no issue and it kind of makes the last 1/3 or half of the movie pointless since it kind of revolves around those children.

It seems clear to me that the girls would pair with Ham and Japheth.

If u rewatch the movie, Ham complains some times to his father that he wants a girl, because everybody has one, and Noah answers that god provides all they need. So, when Ila becomes pregnant and 2 girls are born, that signs they are the 2 girls for the 2 men.

I also see his behavior plausible, he's suffering watching his brother have all the love he can get, with the girl who could pretty much had chosen him instead.

When the flood is announced, it's clear that all ppl not on their family will die. So, to sum up with his teenage "issues", he also sees that if he doesn't get a girl at that moment, he'll never have one. Noah goes to the city looking for 2 and comes back with none. Then he goes and finds that girl, that seems innocent and pure, so she'd be perfect and looked like as provided by god.

Regrding Ham leaving, he didn't go looking for a girl, he went because all the ressentment. He discords on many things his dad did, and he betrayed them letting Og into the Ark and kill some animals, so the sentment goes both way. It'd be hard to keep living with his father who left the girl die, with watching his brother have a family and all the sex he'd want, and they live with him who betrayed them.

That also reflects some passage of the book. First they depict Noah being seen drunk and naked by Ham. On the book, Noah curses him into having his descendants be slaves of his brothers'. Then the movie depicts what's not on the book but is said by ICAR, that Ham goes to south and builds african civilizations, which milleniums later would become slaves to europeans.

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