https://screenrant.com/hbo-max-removes-gone-wind-protests-racist/
I don't know whether to laugh or cry
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Réponse de Philippe LeMarchand
le 10 juin 2020 à 11h14
I've quickly scanned down this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_original_programs_distributed_by_HBO_Max
I'm not familiar with most of the stuff on it, but demand the following are also removed:
Réponse de bratface
le 11 juin 2020 à 01h32
It hasn't been banned! It is being 'reframed'. There will be commentary added to the film when it appears on HBO MAX. You can still view it at other places without the added stuff.
Réponse de znexyish
le 11 juin 2020 à 02h04
The only people interested in watching a near 3 hour 80 year old movie don't need or want to be lectured at.
Réponse de Philippe LeMarchand
le 11 juin 2020 à 10h45
Unless they make it an unskippable documentary before GwtW, I reckon they'll go with pop-ups pointing out that slavery is bad. Just in case any viewers who weren't already rabid racists start thinking, "You know, that slavery thing seems like it could work well."
Réponse de genplant29
le 11 juin 2020 à 11h21
I think Warner Bros. will do similar to how they've done in recent years with vintage 1930s and '40s cartoons (ones that include old stereotypes of blacks, Asians, and/or Jews) that are frequently included as bonus features on classic films DVDs, that a brief intro card or two will state that the movie is a product of its time, and that the film is being presented in its entirety, as it was originally intended, rather than being hidden away or altered, with the hopes that it will inspire present-day enlightened discussion, etc. I have numerous '30s and '40s feature films that one or two of the included bonus cartoons on this or that DVD are foreworded with such a disclaimer. It's Warners' way of portraying itself as "above it all" (while not missing a beat continuing to capitalize on the old catalog).
No doubt GwtW will be presented exactly the same as it's always been, content wise.
Réponse de Philippe LeMarchand
le 11 juin 2020 à 12h32
Depends if/when the current mob calms down. Different trigger, but look at the way the hounds are baying for JK Rowling's blood - and she's consistently stood up for all sorts of minorities. I'm not sure that a brief card will cut it.
Réponse de genplant29
le 11 juin 2020 à 12h54
It'll be interesting to see if various local public libraries wind up feeling pressured to pull their lending DVD(s) of a classic such as this movie. Some probably will, though I doubt most will.
Réponse de Philippe LeMarchand
le 11 juin 2020 à 13h49
Good point! What about the book, too? Anyone read it? My suspicion is that it's likely to be a good deal more potentially offensive than the film.
Réponse de bratface
le 11 juin 2020 à 14h10
The 'reframing' will attempt to put the film's offensive sections in context of the times.
Réponse de Philippe LeMarchand
le 11 juin 2020 à 15h29
I don't think that 100% excludes on-screen info, especially given the way companies are falling over themselves to seem to care about BLM.
Whilst I totally agree that there are some very bad apples in the police in America, I see there are calls for the police to be defunded, in some cases to the extent that there isn't a police force. The money will be split amongst community organisations who will use hugs to ensure that no crime happens. (May be a slight exaggeration). Have these people not seen The Purge? Anyway, if people are seriously discussing that sort of idea, I can't see that a pre-film sop will suffice.
Réponse de genplant29
le 11 juin 2020 à 16h04
Because of how things have been going, I could picture Warners (which may be running a bit scared due to the volatility of the current social climate) creating some type optional "bubbles" or the such, that if selecting such an option before starting the movie there may either be printed explanatory words that appear during certain racially sensitive parts of the movie, or maybe it would be the option of a voice-over narration. If Warners would go with either type option, people who just want to watch the movie "as is" without having the movie currated could do so. That (add-on notes or special voice-over narration) would probably be a good way to go, for if parents or whomever, who might have some extent of discomfort with the film, or who might want to play it using it as opportunity for a "teachable moment", might want to watch the movie with their kids or grandkids, etc.
Réponse de MongoLloyd
le 11 juin 2020 à 17h52
The campaign to erase white history continues. Amazing that 13% of the population can literally erase our American heritage just because.
Réponse de genplant29
le 11 juin 2020 à 18h34
I feel torn about Civil War era statuary, as it's easy to understand the passionate feelings and valid arguments on both sides of the equation. Statues may not always represent perfect history, but they do represent actual social, cultural, and artistic history. Meanwhile, the depicted individuals were viewed, in their own era (and location), and for many years that followed, as pillars of the community and as fine, noble, outstanding citizens. It's all complicated, as today not everyone views those individuals in the same way. Yet, the depicted individuals were people who many continue to feel a lot of pride and admiration for (and not because those depicted past people were slave owners, but because of whatever it was, that's considered admirable or/and impressive, that the person achieved/accomplished).
Réponse de znexyish
le 11 juin 2020 à 18h53
In breaking news country music supergroup Lady Antebellum has changed their name to Lady A. So people would not think they were glorifying the Antebellum South. Also Bjorks record label One Little Indian has changed its name to One Little Independent after being told to do so by someone from the internet. If this happened last year we would not care. Now we must congratulate them. Hooray!
Réponse de MongoLloyd
le 11 juin 2020 à 19h42
Oh, trust me. They fully intend to erase EVERYTHING to do with Euro-American heritage good OR bad not to mention black-washing everything they can.