Discuss Prometheus

Just rewatched this ahead of Covenant and unfortunately it was even worse than I remembered!

What was Shaw even up to at the end? She's already seen one engineer smash everyone he came across up and thinks by going to their planet she'll somehow be able to ask why humans have been marked for termination without exactly the same thing happening...

Plus - Were the engineers on LV-223 supposed to be operating a franchise operation completely independently of their "home" world? I ask because they clearly hadn't been working on their task of eradicating human kind for some time yet no one else from their species had picked that particular task up or knew it hadn't been carried out...

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I was so tuned out of the movie, at the end, I didn't even think about where she was going, or why.

@Halberstram said:

I was so tuned out of the movie, at the end, I didn't even think about where she was going, or why.

Fair point - I rewatched over two nights and after the first installment I was thinking "hey, this isn't so bad, what was all the fuss about" but really, probably from about the Fifield zombie onwards, it's all downhill...

having a naive character with unshakable faith in her creator isn't a reason to hate the movie, nor is it a mistake... its not a video game, you're not supposed "relate" to her, or make her your avatar...

there are real people like this in the world... it doen't even require a suspention of disbelief...

hell, even another character in the movie calls her a zealot!

@Renovatio said:

having a naive character with unshakable faith in her creator isn't a reason to hate the movie, nor is it a mistake... its not a video game, you're not supposed "relate" to her, or make her your avatar...

there are real people like this in the world... it doen't even require a suspention of disbelief...

hell, even another character in the movie calls her a zealot!

you're a zealot.

@Renovatio said:

having a naive character with unshakable faith in her creator isn't a reason to hate the movie, nor is it a mistake... its not a video game, you're not supposed "relate" to her, or make her your avatar...

there are real people like this in the world... it doen't even require a suspention of disbelief...

hell, even another character in the movie calls her a zealot!

these reviewers are children. lol

Shaw was - at least at the beginning - somehow certain that the creators of humans had some kind of great, lofty goal or purpose. Finding out that they (probably) didn't, upset her. Some claim this is the same thing with David, but I still say David is just a robot so that doesn't count or matter.

Necro!

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

What was Shaw even up to at the end? She's already seen one engineer smash everyone he came across up and thinks by going to their planet she'll somehow be able to ask why humans have been marked for termination without exactly the same thing happening...

She wanted to find out more about her creators, and she was willing to risk death for it. What about that is confusing to you?

Plus - Were the engineers on LV-223 supposed to be operating a franchise operation completely independently of their "home" world? I ask because they clearly hadn't been working on their task of eradicating human kind for some time yet no one else from their species had picked that particular task up or knew it hadn't been carried out...

You could make up a thousand different satisfactory explanations. But the explanation isn't germane to the movie, so it's not gone into on screen.

@ubuzen said:

Necro!

@The Midi-chlorian Count said:

What was Shaw even up to at the end? She's already seen one engineer smash everyone he came across up and thinks by going to their planet she'll somehow be able to ask why humans have been marked for termination without exactly the same thing happening...

She wanted to find out more about her creators, and she was willing to risk death for it. What about that is confusing to you?

I still don't think the tall humanoids were actually the creators. More like servants of the REAL Engineers. Just because Shaw thought that THEY were the Engineers, doesn't mean she was right.

Or maybe they were "the Engineers" but those are still just underlings working for the real masters. Like Engineer Scotty worked for Kirk, and he did what Kirk told him to do.

Plus - Were the engineers on LV-223 supposed to be operating a franchise operation completely independently of their "home" world? I ask because they clearly hadn't been working on their task of eradicating human kind for some time yet no one else from their species had picked that particular task up or knew it hadn't been carried out...

You could make up a thousand different satisfactory explanations. But the explanation isn't germane to the movie, so it's not gone into on screen.

If Earth was marked for eradication by the real Creators - not just their underlings, who may or may not have been "Engineers" but still not actually in charge (vis Scotty and Kirk, again) - then the issue of why nobody checked on their progress for 2,000 years may not seem directly consequential to this particular movie, but the fact is if the work had gone as planned, there would have been no humans to visit there and see what happened. And it suggests that the actual creators might have been felled by some catastrophe, and only their underlings remained. Undirected, and without the capability of space travel on their own. Even on the "home" planet that they later went to in "Covenant."

Really boring movie & the ending was stupid!

I liked this when it first came out and still like it today.

OK there are some negatives such as Idris Elba's accent and Rafe Spall's character being scared of another life form then going all loving to a serpent looking one. But overall an interesting film about the Engineers and David's nefarious intentions. Visually stunning too.

Its just a shame that Covenant focused more on the Alien and removed Shaw.

Although one other thing (usually with sci-fi prequels) is how the technology is far more advanced despite this being set over 100 years earlier than Alien. Like those mapping balls...they would've come in handy in Aliens.

Maybe they had mapping balls for their mining operations, which is what the Nostromo mission was actually about, but they weren't available in-flight? Stowed away back in the mining areas, which normally would not have needed to be accessed while in space and the crew in hibernation.

Also, "Prometheus" is only about 30-35 years prior to "Alien."

Yes, sorry I meant approx. 100 years before Aliens. Likewise with those mapping balls, they surely would've been used in Aliens, especially as they also pick up life signals.

I read that Ridley Scott said Nostromo was a basic cargo ship, hence the archaic technology - which is fair enough I guess.

Yes the Nostromo was just the part that detached and landed; the rest was the mining "trailer."

And in Aliens they might have come equipped with mapping balls, but they were destroyed when the landing craft crashed. And they only got a few weapons out of the APC too.

Plus the mapping balls would have been intended for unexplored new places, but they already had maps/charts of the colony buildings. Although the life-detection aspect could have been useful.

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