Seems a bit pointless to bring up now when there's barely any information on it. If it really doesn't interest you, then skip it. Depending on what angle they opt for, it's an interesting time in history.
You could probably add "Mack" from 2020 to that list? I have seen some of the old ones. I thoroughly enjoyed "Sunset Boulevard". What a film that one is. :)
You could probably add "Mack" from 2020 to that list?
Hey, I couldn't find it, could you please give us a link?! I'd love to add it to my list.
I have seen some of the old ones. I thoroughly enjoyed "Sunset Boulevard". What a film that one is. :)
Billy Wilder is my favourite director. Sunset Boulevard is heralded as the quintessential film noire, and there are parts of it I positively love. I can always watch it again. However, masterpiece notwithstanding, I find it icky, weird, off balance, dark, not a lot of fun to watch. Here's a disturbing piece of trivia - Wilder had directed Gloria Swanson to base her feelings at the funeral for the chimp based on her having a sexual relationship with him. Egad! I just created a Sunset Boulevard board discussion on this, with a source link.
That said, Double Indemnity, is to me, the more fun Wilder entrant in that space - it's got great scenes of tension, positively spectacular dialog and pace, while also being funnier, steamier, sexier, and a little more tragic/sad as I could relate/connect more to Walter Neff's inexorable descent than I could to Joe Gillis's.
You could probably add "Mack" from 2020 to that list?
Hey, I couldn't find it, could you please give us a link?! I'd love to add it to my list.
I have seen some of the old ones. I thoroughly enjoyed "Sunset Boulevard". What a film that one is. :)
Billy Wilder is my favourite director. Sunset Boulevard is heralded as the quintessential film noire, and there are parts of it I positively love. I can always watch it again. However, masterpiece notwithstanding, I find it icky, weird, off balance, dark, not a lot of fun to watch. Here's a disturbing piece of trivia - Wilder had directed Gloria Swanson to base her feelings at the funeral for the chimp based on her having a sexual relationship with him. Egad! I just created a Sunset Boulevard board discussion on this, with a source link.
That said, Double Indemnity, is to me, the more fun Wilder entrant in that space - it's got great scenes of tension, positively spectacular dialog and pace, while also being funnier, steamier, sexier, and a little more tragic/sad as I could relate/connect more to Walter Neff's inexorable descent than I could to Joe Gillis's.
I have to watch "Double Indemnity" again someday, as I did not enjoy it that much on my first watch. That's happened a few times with me visiting the Golden Era, but there's also been plenty of diamonds.
You could probably add "Mack" from 2020 to that list?
Hey, I couldn't find it, could you please give us a link?! I'd love to add it to my list.
I have seen some of the old ones. I thoroughly enjoyed "Sunset Boulevard". What a film that one is. :)
Billy Wilder is my favourite director. Sunset Boulevard is heralded as the quintessential film noire, and there are parts of it I positively love. I can always watch it again. However, masterpiece notwithstanding, I find it icky, weird, off balance, dark, not a lot of fun to watch. Here's a disturbing piece of trivia - Wilder had directed Gloria Swanson to base her feelings at the funeral for the chimp based on her having a sexual relationship with him. Egad! I just created a Sunset Boulevard board discussion on this, with a source link.
That said, Double Indemnity, is to me, the more fun Wilder entrant in that space - it's got great scenes of tension, positively spectacular dialog and pace, while also being funnier, steamier, sexier, and a little more tragic/sad as I could relate/connect more to Walter Neff's inexorable descent than I could to Joe Gillis's.
No worries. Got it - and it looks intriguing! Once I've watched it, I'll likely chip in to its discussion page.
I have to watch "Double Indemnity" again someday, as I did not enjoy it that much on my first watch. That's happened a few times with me visiting the Golden Era, but there's also been plenty of diamonds.
Yeah, sometimes we have to put in work :-) It took several attempts for me to finally get through the original Ocean's Eleven, but when I finally did, I was so glad! And, I still don't get The Maltese Falcon, will have to try again sometime, I'm still missing what people love about it (don't get me wrong, I love Bogey in Sabrina and especially in In A Lonely Place.
Anyway, with Double Indemnity, Edward G. Robinson's Keyes has several delicious quotes!
I have to watch "Double Indemnity" again someday, as I did not enjoy it that much on my first watch. That's happened a few times with me visiting the Golden Era, but there's also been plenty of diamonds.
Yeah, sometimes we have to put in work :-) It took several attempts for me to finally get through the original Ocean's Eleven, but when I finally did, I was so glad! And, I still don't get The Maltese Falcon, will have to try again sometime, I'm still missing what people love about it (don't get me wrong, I love Bogey in Sabrina and especially in In A Lonely Place.
Anyway, with Double Indemnity, Edward G. Robinson's Keyes has several delicious quotes!
Yeah, Bogie's films can certainly be hit-and-miss, too. I've recently watched "The Enforcer" and "High Sierra". The ending of the former was a bit disappointing, although overall it was a decent flick. The latter was certainly my favourite of the two. :) I also really liked "In a Lonely Place", it was sooo good! I have not watched "Sabrina" yet, but I have it lying around. Edward G. is also great. It's just such a fantastic period in cinema. "Ocean's Eleven" was okay. I just love Frank and Dean, but there's better stuff to watch from both of them.
The transition from silent film to talkies was difficult. Silent era stars generally just couldn't retain their shine. Talkies ushered in an entirely new set of parameters for making movies, and gave audiences an entirely new thing. There was no going back.
I've seen a few movies comment about this, touch on it, but I've yet to see a full-on depiction of it, including Babylon, which did take more time expressing issues surrounding the transition, both on set and in the grand scheme of things, but Babylon wasn't about the transition - it was about the idea of Hollywood itself and the toll it takes on the lives of those who entertain us, while also showing us how Hollywood provides outlet and meaning for them... for a time...
Nice list! OP is free to hate them, but I fricken love movies about Hollywood, acting, or any kind of "what goes on behind the show" type story. Whether or not it applies to our lives literally, it's such a great metaphor for putting on appearances, fooling people, and the psychological twists that come with all that.
I haven't seen many on the list, but the ones I've seen I really enjoyed like Birdman, Sunset Blvd, Ed Wood.
Have you seen Adaptation? That oughta make the list. The films of Kaufman/Jonze often revolve around the different levels of reality that come with being a performer. Synecdoche NY another good one, much like Birdman, about a playwright who puts on a play about his life, except then he has to put on a play-within-a-play about him putting on a play. And a play-within-a-play-within-a-play... see where this is going?
Reply by DonGable
on June 9, 2021 at 2:56 PM
Seems a bit pointless to bring up now when there's barely any information on it. If it really doesn't interest you, then skip it. Depending on what angle they opt for, it's an interesting time in history.
Reply by DRDMovieMusings
on June 10, 2021 at 1:59 AM
I've actually got a list of Movies About Hollywood/Acting/The Industry, and I like all the ones I've seen.
Have you seen all/any of these?
Reply by DonGable
on June 10, 2021 at 5:56 AM
You could probably add "Mack" from 2020 to that list? I have seen some of the old ones. I thoroughly enjoyed "Sunset Boulevard". What a film that one is. :)
Reply by DRDMovieMusings
on June 10, 2021 at 12:15 PM
Hey, I couldn't find it, could you please give us a link?! I'd love to add it to my list.
Billy Wilder is my favourite director. Sunset Boulevard is heralded as the quintessential film noire, and there are parts of it I positively love. I can always watch it again. However, masterpiece notwithstanding, I find it icky, weird, off balance, dark, not a lot of fun to watch. Here's a disturbing piece of trivia - Wilder had directed Gloria Swanson to base her feelings at the funeral for the chimp based on her having a sexual relationship with him. Egad! I just created a Sunset Boulevard board discussion on this, with a source link.
That said, Double Indemnity, is to me, the more fun Wilder entrant in that space - it's got great scenes of tension, positively spectacular dialog and pace, while also being funnier, steamier, sexier, and a little more tragic/sad as I could relate/connect more to Walter Neff's inexorable descent than I could to Joe Gillis's.
Reply by DonGable
on June 10, 2021 at 12:29 PM
I mistyped, my apologies I meant "Mank", link here: https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/614560-mank
I have to watch "Double Indemnity" again someday, as I did not enjoy it that much on my first watch. That's happened a few times with me visiting the Golden Era, but there's also been plenty of diamonds.
Reply by DRDMovieMusings
on June 10, 2021 at 12:46 PM
No worries. Got it - and it looks intriguing! Once I've watched it, I'll likely chip in to its discussion page.
Yeah, sometimes we have to put in work :-) It took several attempts for me to finally get through the original Ocean's Eleven, but when I finally did, I was so glad! And, I still don't get The Maltese Falcon, will have to try again sometime, I'm still missing what people love about it (don't get me wrong, I love Bogey in Sabrina and especially in In A Lonely Place.
Anyway, with Double Indemnity, Edward G. Robinson's Keyes has several delicious quotes!
Reply by DonGable
on June 10, 2021 at 12:59 PM
Yeah, Bogie's films can certainly be hit-and-miss, too. I've recently watched "The Enforcer" and "High Sierra". The ending of the former was a bit disappointing, although overall it was a decent flick. The latter was certainly my favourite of the two. :) I also really liked "In a Lonely Place", it was sooo good! I have not watched "Sabrina" yet, but I have it lying around. Edward G. is also great. It's just such a fantastic period in cinema. "Ocean's Eleven" was okay. I just love Frank and Dean, but there's better stuff to watch from both of them.
Reply by DRDMovieMusings
on December 25, 2022 at 8:34 PM
The transition from silent film to talkies was difficult. Silent era stars generally just couldn't retain their shine. Talkies ushered in an entirely new set of parameters for making movies, and gave audiences an entirely new thing. There was no going back.
I've seen a few movies comment about this, touch on it, but I've yet to see a full-on depiction of it, including Babylon, which did take more time expressing issues surrounding the transition, both on set and in the grand scheme of things, but Babylon wasn't about the transition - it was about the idea of Hollywood itself and the toll it takes on the lives of those who entertain us, while also showing us how Hollywood provides outlet and meaning for them... for a time...
Reply by yzxhcys
on December 27, 2022 at 10:08 PM
good
Reply by DRDMovieMusings
on December 28, 2022 at 10:32 AM
Done - thanks!
Reply by DanDare
on December 29, 2022 at 5:33 PM
Long movies about Hollywood certainly are boring.
Reply by DRDMovieMusings
on December 29, 2022 at 5:36 PM
This movie was just a little over 3hrs long, but I liked it. If it's not your preference, that's fine, like what you like and don't what you don't.
But, it was long, about Hollywood, and not boring to me. I don't know what else to tell ya.
Reply by Drenghel
on March 17, 2023 at 8:48 PM
Hey if you want another movie about Hollywood for your list, got this one recommended through a great review of Babylon: https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/157851-maps-to-the-stars
Cheers
Reply by rooprect
on March 17, 2023 at 9:28 PM
Nice list! OP is free to hate them, but I fricken love movies about Hollywood, acting, or any kind of "what goes on behind the show" type story. Whether or not it applies to our lives literally, it's such a great metaphor for putting on appearances, fooling people, and the psychological twists that come with all that.
I haven't seen many on the list, but the ones I've seen I really enjoyed like Birdman, Sunset Blvd, Ed Wood.
Have you seen Adaptation? That oughta make the list. The films of Kaufman/Jonze often revolve around the different levels of reality that come with being a performer. Synecdoche NY another good one, much like Birdman, about a playwright who puts on a play about his life, except then he has to put on a play-within-a-play about him putting on a play. And a play-within-a-play-within-a-play... see where this is going?
Reply by DRDMovieMusings
on March 17, 2023 at 9:46 PM
John Cusack is in a few on ny current list, so it's no surprise to see him here, I'll check it out!