Got the same vibes actually and also thought of Edge of Tomorrow watching it, but Edge of Tomorrow was vastly superior. This one just felt overly long and was full of really stupid and nonsensical scenes. SPOILER ALERT The chick with daddy issues in the future scenes felt really forced and out of place since Pratt's character was pretty much shown as a loving family man in the first third of the film so not exactly sure why he would be leaving his family all of a sudden. My favourite though being the president of the US who apparently has no problem sending most of the citizens of his country to fight in a war in the future and die there because some chick told him so, but when he is told that they pretty much know where the aliens originated from he can't be bothered to send a team there to check it out. Seems legit. I also like the idea that Chris Pratt (whatever he was called in this) figured that rustling up the five or so bros and chicks was quite sufficient for assaulting the alien ship. Especially so since one of them had shown absolutely zero combat prowess. I also love the idea of giving him the fragile glass vial instead of just printing him the instructions on how to make the alien poison especially since the future teleporter seems to have a tendency to teleport the people 10 feet or a couple hundred feet above in the air so I'm sure that fragile glass vial would survive the trip and fall just fine. I also laughed at the scene where his daughter is falling and he is holding the super important vial in his hand and he just decides to plunge after his dying daughter despite the fact that there seems to be thousands of those monsters waiting for him below.

@aholejones said:

SPOILER ALERT The chick with daddy issues in the future scenes felt really forced and out of place since Pratt's character was pretty much shown as a loving family man in the first third of the film so not exactly sure why he would be leaving his family all of a sudden.

I initially thought that he came back from "the tomorrow war" and was mentally scarred upon his return, mirroring what his dad said about being in a dark place and it being better for them that he left. But I don't think he went into the war in his original timeline...so maybe he just couldn't get over that he never made it as a scientist of whatever he wanted to be and that strained his relationship.

But yeah, agree with all your points, especially the vial lol. I'd also say that these whitespikes were kinda like the starship trooper bugs with the same vulnerability...indestructible to some members of the team (the extras/non-important characters) but can be killed rather easily by others (Pratt, his daughter etc).

Having said that, I did enjoy the film :)

@aholejones said:

Got the same vibes actually and also thought of Edge of Tomorrow watching it, but Edge of Tomorrow was vastly superior.

Agreed!

@aholejones said:

This one just felt overly long and was full of really stupid and nonsensical scenes. SPOILER ALERT The chick with daddy issues in the future scenes felt really forced and out of place since Pratt's character was pretty much shown as a loving family man in the first third of the film so not exactly sure why he would be leaving his family all of a sudden.

Also agreed. She says her parents got a divorce but doesn't state why. Men don't typically file for divorce without a good reason and women tend to file more, and given he's the one who "left" it sounds like the mom divorced him, which would make it her fault for him leaving.

@aholejones said:

My favourite though being the president of the US who apparently has no problem sending most of the citizens of his country to fight in a war in the future and die there because some chick told him so, but when he is told that they pretty much know where the aliens originated from he can't be bothered to send a team there to check it out. Seems legit. I also like the idea that Chris Pratt (whatever he was called in this) figured that rustling up the five or so bros and chicks was quite sufficient for assaulting the alien ship. Especially so since one of them had shown absolutely zero combat prowess. I also love the idea of giving him the fragile glass vial instead of just printing him the instructions on how to make the alien poison especially since the future teleporter seems to have a tendency to teleport the people 10 feet or a couple hundred feet above in the air so I'm sure that fragile glass vial would survive the trip and fall just fine. I also laughed at the scene where his daughter is falling and he is holding the super important vial in his hand and he just decides to plunge after his dying daughter despite the fact that there seems to be thousands of those monsters waiting for him below.

This was the part of the movie that kind of lost me, that he has the magic "kill all aliens" potion and the government isn't all over it and turning it into a gas. Also he figures out where the ship is based on the knowledge from a high school kid who turns out to be 100% right? I wish that instead of the kid maybe Pratt's wife was knowledgeable in that area so the whole family actually plays a part in saving the world.

But the stupidest thing is that THEY DIDN'T NEED THE MAGIC POTION! Blowing up the ship would have solved the whole problem, also NOT injecting the queen alien first was stupid. Also revealing the ship is big enough to house hundreds of male aliens and they somehow brought enough explosives to kill them all? It would have made more sense that there were maybe 20 males and the queen and that she just reproduces like crazy so that the ship doesn't need to be huge and could be destroyed with a few C-4 bricks, but I don't buy they had enough explosives to blow the entire ship. They needed a nuke.

I agree with most of your points. I thought it was crazy how people are drafted, for 7 days, with barely any training. They are then given the equivalent of bb guns to fight the aliens. No wonder there was only a 20% chance of making it back. No grenades, launchers or high powered sniper rifles?

The fact that the U.S. government would shoot down the idea of searching for the aliens to avoid a world crisis is beyond stupid. The world is going to be down to 500,000 people but, oh well. Why didn't they shop the idea to Russia, China or any other country?

Why did they need a kid to enlighten them? Didn't they have access to Google? Maybe ask a geologist?

I also found it odd that Russia didn't have the foresight to explore and see if they could figure out why the aliens originated in their country.

I did enjoy the movie, for the most part. I just had to turn off rational thinking. I definitely would have liked more scenes with JK Simmons.

Much of the movie seems to depend on the charisma of Chris Pratt and his comic relief sidekick, Sam Richardson. As I get older, I have less patience for obvious plot points or gaping logic holes. I watched it tonight mainly because it was free. IMO, it dragged when the family drama kicked in and entertained me with very good action sequences. (Not that they were especially creative, but they were well-animated and fairly intense.)

I'll agree with the other commenters, though, where I was pulled out of the movie when Pratt's character returned to the present where General Fatass oddly decides that a mission to kill the aliens before they become a threat was pointless. (I was equally mystified that Pratt's character couldn't figure out what possible use the toxin would be in the past.)

It was a movie. It was free. I've seen the plot points a million times. I'll never watch it again. Seems like an awful lot of the action/superhero movies these days.

@AlienFanatic said:

Much of the movie seems to depend on the charisma of Chris Pratt and his comic relief sidekick, Sam Richardson. As I get older, I have less patience for obvious plot points or gaping logic holes. I watched it tonight mainly because it was free. IMO, it dragged when the family drama kicked in and entertained me with very good action sequences. (Not that they were especially creative, but they were well-animated and fairly intense.)

I'll agree with the other commenters, though, where I was pulled out of the movie when Pratt's character returned to the present where General Fatass oddly decides that a mission to kill the aliens before they become a threat was pointless. (I was equally mystified that Pratt's character couldn't figure out what possible use the toxin would be in the past.)

It was a movie. It was free. I've seen the plot points a million times. I'll never watch it again. Seems like an awful lot of the action/superhero movies these days.

Sam Richardson was funny but you just had to squeeze in some action film and Superhero film hate.

@Adammm said: Sam Richardson was funny but you just had to squeeze in some action film and Superhero film hate.

To each their own, bud. I wasn't sick of them at the beginning, but they've come to so dominate the multiplex that I'm just worn out. I'm old enough to have seen Superman the Movie in the theater. They lurked in the background until they took off with the Spider Man movies and then went supersonic with the Marvel flix.

As for myself, I'm done with movie theaters anyway. Now more than ever they're for the young. For those of us thirsty for actual human characters, there's plenty to be seen on streaming services. I'm EXTREMELY tempted to subscribe to Apple TV just to watch their Foundation series. I'd give my left nut for someone to translate the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons into a streaming series. And the final season of Better Call Saul will be unbearably tense, depressing, and immensely satisfying I'm sure.

So I'll stop complaining about superhero movies because, in all honesty, I don't care about them enough to keep bitching.

@AlienFanatic said:

As for myself, I'm done with movie theaters anyway. Now more than ever they're for the young. For those of us thirsty for actual human characters, there's plenty to be seen on streaming services. I'm EXTREMELY tempted to subscribe to Apple TV just to watch their Foundation series. I'd give my left nut for someone to translate the Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons into a streaming series. And the final season of Better Call Saul will be unbearably tense, depressing, and immensely satisfying I'm sure.

So I'll stop complaining about superhero movies because, in all honesty, I don't care about them enough to keep bitching.

In the film The Player, there's a great line, "We're trying to make a movie, not a film." Films are art - cerebral, contemplative, complex, paced by dialog, and don't need big screen/sound; movies are formulaic, simple, loud, colorful, fast, paced by fights and explosions, and are better consumed on a big screen. Each has its place.

Having said that, one of the overwhelming advantages of streaming as a distribution channel is that films - especially independent, lower budget films - have more opportunity to be discovered. Back when the big screen was the primary form of distribution, theatres couldn't risk showing a film that wasn't sure to put butts in seats, so the blockbusters got priority.

Today, it's quite easy to stumble across a film you've never heard of, give it a watch, and come away with a satisfying experience, on a streaming platform. The opportunity for writers, directors and actors to take on smaller projects, and for audiences to have access to them, is much better in today's world. The theatres will continue to get their blockbuster audiences, but other audiences can enjoy well-told stories in the comfort of home.

Fun movie...

Bad TV movie. Amazon paid $200 million for this garbage? I can suspend disbelief, but not this far. Time travel stuff made no logical sense.

Reminds me of a crappy SyFy original movie. Basically rips off Starship Troopers, Aliens, Aliens vs Predator, etc. Even DOOM is ripped off (chainsaw).

Very WOKE movie...women in charge of everything and climate change is our undoing.

@AlienFanatic said:

(I was equally mystified that Pratt's character couldn't figure out what possible use the toxin would be in the past.)

Exactly. "Oh no, we can't send the toxin to the future." So, you'd want to stop the war in the beginning or prevent it altogether.

Also, so what his daughter dies in the future. If they stop the war, those events would not occur.

@Rickers said:

Bad TV movie. Amazon paid $200 million for this garbage?

Amazon invested $200M, and they'll likely make return on that investment. Lots of bad movies make lots of money. You've seen Transformers, right? Many have. We all know it ain't The Godfather! (which did not make a ton of money at all).

I can suspend disbelief, but not this far. Time travel stuff made no logical sense.

Time travel never makes sense. But sure, there are degrees of suspension required, and if this crossed the line for you, so be it.

Very WOKE movie...women in charge of everything and climate change is our undoing.

And, what makes that so bad? Having a bunch of men in charge may be "normal" but that doesn't make it better. As for climate change, I've no opinion either way, your take is as good as any.

@DRDMovieMusings said:

Amazon invested $200M, and they'll likely make return on that investment. Lots of bad movies make lots of money. You've seen Transformers, right? Many have. We all know it ain't The Godfather! (which did not make a ton of money at all).

I enjoyed Transformers. Good cast and entertaining. The Godfather is unwatchable.

Time travel never makes sense. But sure, there are degrees of suspension required, and if this crossed the line for you, so be it.

No, this movie made NO sense.

And, what makes that so bad? Having a bunch of men in charge may be "normal" but that doesn't make it better.

It makes it realistic and believable.

@Rickers said:

@DRDMovieMusings said:

Amazon invested $200M, and they'll likely make return on that investment. Lots of bad movies make lots of money. You've seen Transformers, right? Many have. We all know it ain't The Godfather! (which did not make a ton of money at all).

I enjoyed Transformers. Good cast and entertaining. The Godfather is unwatchable.

All righty then.

I just love any monsters or creatures. The YTs are a bit lame in that dept but its okay, just a movie. I wanted this movie to be 'better' but hey, have y'all seen some of the crap getting churned out lately? Hollywhack pushes to collect the almighty buck. Art is the last thing on their agenda.